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Waverider9.9
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PostFri Jul 22, 2005 4:08 pm    

A few more desperate situations like Year of Hell, only without the handy temporal shift.

Making the encounters with the Borg actually threatening, rather than make them appear only half as dangerous as, the Vidiians for example:

Voyager detects a Vidiian ship, it hides in a nebula.
Voyager detects a Borg ship, it flies toward it and attacks.

The only truly "oh dear" part was in Collective, when Harry was knocked out and the Cube has the Flyer in a tractor beam and Tom, Chakotay and Neelix's faces as the Borg came over the Comm.

More of those would have been nice.


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Blancie
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PostWed Sep 07, 2005 11:25 am    

nadia wrote:
Have a diff captain


PrankishSmart wrote:
No Janeway.

Do soemthing about that damn tiny shuttle bay thats actually smaller than the delta flyer, yet is meant to house that, as well as Neelix's ship, half a dozen or so shuttles and whatever other alien ships at the time.

I also wanted to see the captains yacht in action. Also, the warp nacells are too small for the speeds the ship is capable of.

The ending was really stupid.

Did I mention Janeway?


How could you?!?



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Jeff Miller
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PostWed Sep 07, 2005 11:28 am    

Get rid of Kate mulgrew and Robert Beltran those have to be two if not thee worst actors ever. Oh, and Voyager? that was one of the most lame starship designs ever hell that ship kept breaking down.

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myblackrose
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PostWed Sep 07, 2005 11:51 am    

Dude, no need to totally bash.. try making a constructive suggestion instead...

Mulgrew rocks okay... I think Janeway was a damn good captain...


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PostWed Sep 07, 2005 1:33 pm    

uh, the title is changes thats what I would have changed.

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PostWed Sep 07, 2005 2:50 pm    

Let's see. Mulgrew was the best suited for the job. She's the best actress that I've ever seen perform. She's just great. She's got such a wide range of ability in the art that is acting. Beltran...It's not his fault. It's the producers for not expanding on the character.

I think Voyager is the coolest design of them all. Sovereign looks cool and all too, but Voyager looks like it was built for speed. Such a fast, sleek, looking ship that packs a mighty punch at the same time.


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PostThu Jul 27, 2006 12:48 am    

What would I change? Well...no show is perfect...and also I've come to realize as much as I do like Voyager that it was made for more of 'entertainment' value than really anything else. Some moral and ethical dilema's here and there. Most of ethical and moral issues seemed to have been delt with more in the first season...before the show took on a more of an 'action packed entertainment' type of show.

I would change...

1. Better writing.

-...some of the episodes were great...some not so great. I believe some on this forum said for every great episode it got three mundane episodes. And as sad as I do have to say I'd probably agree with that. Also some of the characters got shortchanged, especially after Seven came on board. After that the focus was pretty much Seven, Janeway and the Doc.

Chakotay and Harry really got short changed. I mean take a look at Harry and Tom's situation. Tom gets a field promotion to Lt, Junior Grade in The Caretaker (which they feel so important that they have to show), gets Demoted in Thirty Days and then promoted again back to Lt J.G. in Unimatrix Zero. Harry...? What happens to him? He performs exemplary and grows from the green thumbed ensign to...what an experienced ensign who's not afraid to voice his opinion. And when does he get promoted?

Chakotay's character had hardly any development through out the series. He's pretty much the same Chakotay as he was in the end of the series. Where's this anger that their always mentioning? He's supposed to be angrey with the federation for not defending his home - hell that's why he left starfleet. And how come they show Paris being promoted...why is that so important? How come we never got to see Chakotay being offered the role of Janeway's first officer and a promotion? That's much more important to the show - I would think.

I realize that Beltran wasn't happy with his character - and I think that's one of the reasons how C/7 came about. I'd certainly erase that if I could. It made much more sense on Seven's part than it ever did on his. Case in point her Holo-Chak. It seems at the end of season seven they had just stared warming up to each other...or him warming up to her. Then suddenly with out warming bam...their having picnic's in the cargo bay. For character development I could understand C/7 more if they had been...actually developing it.


2. More risks.

- Year of Hell, what a great episode! Great episode! They screw the ship up and scatter the entire crew. Only to push the reset button and have everything back together again - and for them all to have no memories of it...because it never happened in the first place. They seemed so scared of well...tampering with stuff like that. In order for growth and some great creativity to shine you have to take risks. Sometimes Voyager seemed like a child that didn't want to grow up. Almost like it was stuck in Never Never Land.

3. Endgame

- well...lets just erase that whole episode and start with a much better ending. I really think they should have just ended the show with them stuck in the Delta Quadrant. With them realizing that they were 'home' with their friends and family. They all seem to care so much about everyone else in this Voyager family...I've read better fanfictions protraying stuff like this were Voyager comes home...only to find that home isn't what they left it 7 years ago.

And also...why couldn't we see what their lives were like after they got home? What do we know so far...Janeway's an admirial - and that's pretty much it. We don't even know if the Maquis and Paris are pardoned for their previous crimes. What happens to the Doc? Icheb and Seven?

(also on a side note...one thing about Janeway's character that I've noticed. Her ultimate goal is to get the crew home...Q offers to do it -and she tells him she wants to do it her way. She's stress'es on the point so very much, and the in season seven when Q comes back - he offers her a little gift that would shave of a few year off their journey. and she asks him...why don't you just send us home? Soo...what's up with that?)

4. Jeri Taylor
- I wish she would have stayed on. Voyager was much better with her. If she had stayed as an exec. the series I'm sure would have ended better.


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