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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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I think everyone is entilted to what the belive or how they feel. I think Caitlen is still a good person though because she never treated me badly.
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:30 pm |
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^This isn't an argument about if anyone is a good person or not. This is about Hitler and to get people's point of views on him.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:18 pm |
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Yay Annette! That's why the topic is "ADOLF HITLER", and not, "Kitey's views on Hitler", btw,
Captain Dappet wrote: | Starbuck wrote: | They were actually work camps, death was of course the end result, but they were work camps.
Hitler was a very caring and compassionate man, sure he didn't love everyone, but he did infact love Eva Braun. He called Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess his best friends
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Work Camp, Concentration Camp, call it what you will. People were killed in all of them for no reason, and in many ways. Starvation, gas, some were shot, some froze to death. I'd call it a Death Camp, because as you say, that was indeed the end result.
Hitler was anything but a "very caring and compassionate man". He was a sick man, with very disturbed opinions. Just because he had two best friends and loved a woman does not make him a "very caring and compassionate man".
Either way, he's dead now, and the Nazi reign was crushed. Defending Hitler as a person, and defending what he did, is a dishonourable act. Many soldiers from around the world died to stop him and his allies.
If anyone is worth defending it's the German soldier, who did nothing but his duty - Like any other soldier. |
Exactly.
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Brightstar82 Rear Admiral
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 4394 Location: A Borg Cube....Where Else?
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:56 pm so sick |
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Hitler was such a sick man. I cant get over what he did to all those innocent souls he entraped in those concentration camps. It rips my heart out to think one man could be so cruel and heartless.
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Starbuck faster...
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:25 pm |
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Okay, Hitler may have killed 6 million Jews, but Stalin killed 10 million Jews, and a significant number of Russians. That just seems to be over looked and passed off as "he was just paranoid".
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:57 pm |
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^Yeah, but you don't see anyone calling people Uneducated when they say Satan is bad, sick in the head. I don't see people saying Satan is brilliant and loving, caring and has every reason to be evil or whatever ..... do ya?
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:56 pm |
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zero wrote: | ^Yeah, but you don't see anyone calling people Uneducated when they say Satan is bad, sick in the head. I don't see people saying Satan is brilliant and loving, caring and has every reason to be evil or whatever ..... do ya? |
Yeah, you do. There are those who praise Satan. You could say that poor Lucifer wasn't bad, and God had no right to treat him that way... I'm not saying I think that, but it's all in your perspective.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:21 pm |
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Starbuck wrote: | Okay, Hitler may have killed 6 million Jews, but Stalin killed 10 million Jews, and a significant number of Russians. That just seems to be over looked and passed off as "he was just paranoid". |
Stalin is considered a sick f**k too.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:30 pm |
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Sad that we have to waste breath trying to convince people that Hitler was simply evil.
Hitler is evil. Period. End of story. There's nothing to debate. If you can't see that, then I feel pity for you.
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marimbaplayer Johnny
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 525 Location: second star to the right and straight on till morning
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Another theory about hitler's reasons for this genocide was that he needed an enemy to reinstill the German people with the sense of German pride; essential for a country entering a war. Since the Treaty of Versailles, Germany's National Pride meter was like...in the negative 100s. Hitler had to find things that the German people could be proud of to make them join the war. So he decided to use the reign of Otto von Bismark, "real politik", and the "pure" Aryan race as poster theories for a call to return to the values that he said Germany held dear so many years ago, and used Jews or anything non-German as an enemy. He also attacked forms of Socialism and later most forms of religion as scapegoats. One of many reasons he latched onto Jews as the "state enemy" was because they were the bankers and comparatively rich members of German society (because they were smart business people, for the most part). Another reason was because there was already a rather all-encompassing hatred against the Jewish people. But then that's just a theory, I'll admit. Like all of the speculation going on in this topic, that's all it is: speculation and opinions, and nothing is ever going to be proven, because there is no absolute about hitler. It's in the past, and he's too damn famous for anything anybody writes about him to be absolutely true.
Interesting dude though.
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Dirt Exercise Boy
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 2086 Location: a tree
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Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:18 am |
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Man, for a moment I thought you were quoting Bush in your first post there T (yes, this is an actual joke..!)
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