Was Voyager too cute?

Mentalist · **Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:26 pm Was Voyager too cute?**

It only touched on darkness a few times then to compensate fo scaring perhaps its 80% timid fanbase it would overload us with Neelix's beaming smiles f cheesiness and Naomi Wilman playing with Flotta - or whatever that stupid things name was - for entire episodes in the holodeck.

They were in a dangerous unexplored Quadrant of the galaxy and they couldn't think of anything more interesting to do than have cutesy irish holidays in the holodeck?

Was Voyager too cute and should it have notched up the darkness and desperation for more than 3 minutes at a time so as to really get a feel of danger not you are my sunshine my only sunshine?

zero · **Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:49 pm**

^naa, that's what DS9 is for.

Mentalist · **Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:06 pm**

You're right. DS9 is there to be good while Voyager is just lame.
Nice spot!

Number_6 · **Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:20 pm**

Yeah, at least DS9's holodeck episodes were entertaining. The Voyager ones were just lame and sometimes creepy, particularly Janeway having a fling with a 24th century Real Doll.

Vader's Leg · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 77

I toast to seven wasted years in Voyager

magenta · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:24 am**

Voyager had a lot of well thought out episodes,and did a few 'family' type episodes.But there were some really great ones such as the Hirogen.
The episode where they turned the crew into training partners killing/injuring them over and over then getting the doc to fix them up.
There were heaps of ground breaking episodes!

Mentalist · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:31 am**

Robby · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212

Voyager was for cool kids, DS9

was for scientific geeks and/or nerds.

Mentalist · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:51 am**

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:08 am**

Common sense will tell you if you don't like voy then post in the forum that you like instead of trashing voy.

Mentalist · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:10 am**

Common sense will actually dictate that if I have an opinion on something to express it, no?

I probably know more about Voyager and Star Trek in general than anyone here so I am expressing my views. You may not like them but here they be.

Doodels1991 · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:52 am**

i don't won't to get involved but voyager was really good and ok i must admit that the holodeck episodes were a bit borning but then i supose it lets you see more of the character and not the job or smatness or oh it is oh so obvious then spends half an hour exlaining wat to do then takes about not even a minute doing it. you have to look past the boringness and look at the what tit is telling you about the character.

madlilnerd · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:18 am**

Yes, it was too cute. If I had been the captain, we wouldn't have been as moral as voyager was. I would have given technology to the kazon. I would have sacrificed crewmembers to the borg. And when we got back to the Alpha quadrant, I would scare/bribe all my crew into silence.

Robby · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212

Robby · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212

Mentalist · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:00 pm**

rabbit · Lieutenant Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 208

i think season 6 and 7 were the only good seasons of ds9, but they did have good eps here and there before then...

Voyager had more in depth characters and they spent more time developing their characters than any other of the series. I guess they wanted that to be one of their main focuses...

There also were some darker episodes in voyager. Mentalist, in your first post u only mentioned a few episodes were there was lighter stuff. Every series has light episodes like that and episodes purely on the holodeck. That is part of Star Trek. Deep Space Nine had light episodes too...

You can't talk about the whole series when u only are mentioning a few episodes. That is only part of the picture...

just my two carrots worth... : )

Voyager2004 · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:13 pm**

and I do believe it's called "cockiness" to say..."I probably know more about Star Trek than anybody else here..." etc... And, yes. You are entitled to your views, but to have nothing good to say about something, is bashing it. Which is what is happening. Granted, you started out with... "was it too cute?" and then it turned into "Why was the episode 'The Game' a 2 hour episode when it could have been told in 1 episode..." and blah blah blah... That's bashing dude.

Mentalist · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:20 pm**

Voyager2004 · **Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:30 pm**

But then again, as you say, It's just my opinion.

and, oh ya. Voyager could have used a few more dark episodes, but I think the show was still great!

Robby · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212

Mentalist you are great entertainment I'll admit that.

One point:- If you think DS9 is waaaay better than Voyager, how come you have zero posts in the DS9 section?

Leo Wyatt · **Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:27 am**

I know, I want to know why too instead of trashing Voyager? You don't have nothing else better to do honestly. Fine have an opinion but making these topics just making this board look bad. And this is a great site. Have some respect.

Robby · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212

But with 77 posts in 2 days I reckon he actually has nothing better to do AND he has ulterior motives. We can read you like an open book with big writing and colourful pictures.

magenta · **Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:00 am**

Mentalist you sound about 12yrs old and bored,a fan of star trek would join this site or post in the voyager section because they had something positive to say.At least some of the time,all your posts are bashing and criticising,you think you are particularly intelligent by doing this?As I said you sound like a bored adolesent looking to be recognised as intelligent!It isnt working,you are stirring up some chat,so you are good for something!

Thomas · **Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:20 am**

Reading the last few posts in this topic, accusing Mentalist of continually bashing is looking more and more hypocritical. I'd ask that you all reserve your name-calling and opinions on other posters and concentrate on discussing the topic. If you don't like this particular topic, just leave it alone. Anyone who feels they have anything to add can PM me or another moderator. The next post here should pertain to the subject of this thread and nothing else.