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Andorian Ambasodor
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 Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:33 pm Changes |
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What changes do you think could have made Voyager better?
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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| Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:09 pm |
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Changes? No changes. It was suppose to meant as the writers wrote the series. Even last season I disagree with , but not really changes.
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Voyager2004
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Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: Silverdale, WA
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| Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:59 pm |
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All perfect. Don't change a thing. (actually there were a few SMALL MINOR details, but nothing that would affect how ANYTHING turned out.)
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nadia
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Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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Location: Australia
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:40 am |
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Have a diff captain
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Sam Kenobi
Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003
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Location: The 'Verse
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:14 am |
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Had them not get home in the series finale. Nobody wants a cool adventure to be over.
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PrankishSmart
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Location: Hobart, Australia.
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:19 am |
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No Janeway.
Do soemthing about that damn tiny shuttle bay thats actually smaller than the delta flyer, yet is meant to house that, as well as Neelix's ship, half a dozen or so shuttles and whatever other alien ships at the time.
I also wanted to see the captains yacht in action. Also, the warp nacells are too small for the speeds the ship is capable of.
The ending was really stupid.
Did I mention Janeway? 
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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Leave Janeway alone. She is cool captain.   
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Voyager2004
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:12 pm |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | Also, the warp nacells are too small for the speeds the ship is capable of. |
Who said this? No one. There's nothing anywhere saying anything about the warp nacelles having to be a certain size to reach a certain speed. The warp nacelles are supposed to be proportional to the ship's size. You don't want giant things on something small. That's retarded. The Defiant Class starships have smaller warp nacelles than Voyager and they reach speeds of warp 9.9. So you're supposed to tell me that the Defiant class ship was just a fluke?
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1/1
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:18 pm |
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The only thing I would have changed is the J/C storyline so they got together. Apart from that it was perfect.
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PrankishSmart
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:32 pm |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | Also, the warp nacells are too small for the speeds the ship is capable of. |
Who said this? No one. There's nothing anywhere saying anything about the warp nacelles having to be a certain size to reach a certain speed. The warp nacelles are supposed to be proportional to the ship's size. You don't want giant things on something small. That's retarded. The Defiant Class starships have smaller warp nacelles than Voyager and they reach speeds of warp 9.9. So you're supposed to tell me that the Defiant class ship was just a fluke? |
The Defiant's maximum speed is warp 9.5 for a short burst. Somewhere around warp 8 is maximum cruise speed.
Voyager's warp nacelles are small when you compare the nacell to ship ratio size to other ships capable of matching voyager's speed. A sovereign class's nacelles are HUGE for the ship when you compare an intrepid. A galaxy's nacelles are even larger (ratio size) and it has a slower speed.
It's also a personal opinion, too.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:33 pm |
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This really is not the topic to debate about which is the better ship of course. Changes? No not really. Cause the writers wrote how Voyager how they wanted it. Or I could have been misreading again as usual
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PrankishSmart
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:40 pm |
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^I'm not debating about other ships. I'm simply using other ships nacelles as a size comparison for voyagers to example my point
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:41 pm |
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well i said I could have misread. did you read lol
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PrankishSmart
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:43 pm |
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Oh I guess I missread too
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:43 pm |
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hehe we're not perfect but strife to be
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PrankishSmart
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:47 pm |
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I strive to be unperfect
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robbiewebster
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:07 pm |
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when they recieved the first message from starfleet they should have switched to the new uniform
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Founder
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:53 pm |
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| robbiewebster wrote: | | when they recieved the first message from starfleet they should have switched to the new uniform |
I know! I always found it stupid that they kept the old uniforms. I know people are going to say, "But they couldn't waste the resources!" doesn't change the fact, they looked stupid. 
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Theresa
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Don't they "recycle" the uniforms anyway? Wouldn't be too hard to change them, you'd think. And Voyager, yeah, there are a few things I'd change.
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Voyager2004
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| Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:16 pm |
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| robbiewebster wrote: | | when they recieved the first message from starfleet they should have switched to the new uniform |
Couldn't waste resources. Doesn't make sense when the uniforms they were using were still in perfect shape.
| Founder wrote: | | robbiewebster wrote: |
when they recieved the first message from starfleet they should have switched to the new uniform |
I know! I always found it stupid that they kept the old uniforms. I know people are going to say, "But they couldn't waste the resources!" doesn't change the fact, they looked stupid. |
Ok. Just remember that when you're in the Delta Quadrant stuck, away from everything you know and you're on limited resources. I'll hold you to making new uniforms for the entire crew when Starfleet decides to change again.
(I'm not trying to be rude, I'm sorry if you take it that way. I try not to be rude b/c I don't like it when people are deliberately rude to me, especially in something like this.)
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Founder
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | Ok. Just remember that when you're in the Delta Quadrant stuck, away from everything you know and you're on limited resources. I'll hold you to making new uniforms for the entire crew when Starfleet decides to change again.
(I'm not trying to be rude, I'm sorry if you take it that way. I try not to be rude b/c I don't like it when people are deliberately rude to me, especially in something like this.) |
Well they weren't full cut off. They saw what the new uniforms looked like.
Theresa also made a good point about the "resources". They can just recycle their crappy uniforms for the good ones.
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Voyager2004
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And ok, so they weren't cut off from COMMS during the 6th and 7th season, but they were from their resources.
Ya, but when you recycle something you never get back as much as you use in place of what you recycled. Like, you might spend (Example only) $25 worth of soda cans, and when you go to recycle them, you only get like $10 or $15.
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PrankishSmart
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| Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:43 am |
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Starfleet probally didn't see it vitally important to issue the voyager crew with a uniform change. They probally thought of more important things first like wanting to know about the crews journey in the DQ, and they were in the middle of the Dominion war too. I supose that they could have changed uniforms if they wanted to but it wouldn't have been that important.
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Tuvok8917
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| Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:56 am |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | No Janeway.
Do soemthing about that damn tiny shuttle bay thats actually smaller than the delta flyer, yet is meant to house that, as well as Neelix's ship, half a dozen or so shuttles and whatever other alien ships at the time.
I also wanted to see the captains yacht in action. Also, the warp nacells are too small for the speeds the ship is capable of.
The ending was really stupid.
Did I mention Janeway? |
I soooooooooooo agree with you
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ravenstar
Lieutenant
Joined: 03 Jun 2004
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| Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:02 am |
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I would not change anything except the crew needed to be bald and tell Neelix how he stinks.
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