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Andorian Ambasodor
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Joined: 01 Jul 2005
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Location: Andoria
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 Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:31 pm Things changed |
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What things would you have changed to make Enterprise beter in your opinion?
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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| Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:14 pm |
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What would change? Better writers. Because Berman and Braga ruin a good series with their terrible writing.
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nadia
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Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 8560
Location: Australia
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:34 am |
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TSSSS!!!!
I would probably make it that they encounter more aliens
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Andorian Ambasodor
Ensign
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
Posts: 67
Location: Andoria
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:27 pm |
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Yes I think Enterprise could have met more and explored more.
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robbiewebster
Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Posts: 2594
Location: Rochester, New York
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| Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:16 pm |
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I'm sorry guys, but I really liked Enterprise. I must not have good taste or something, because everyone tells me that the series was no good.
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Number_6
Senior Cadet
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 27
Location: In The Village
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:22 am |
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Get rid of that *beep* song and replace it with something orchestrated.
Try to actually establish SOME continuity with TOS.
Better writers, better actors.
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Vader's Leg
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 77
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:28 am |
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Ban Scott Blackula from trek!
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Mentalist
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 82
Location: Somewhere being a nut
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:30 am |
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| robbiewebster wrote: | | I'm sorry guys, but I really liked Enterprise. I must not have good taste or something, because everyone tells me that the series was no good. |
The series was no good. Infact it positvley sucked. Improving Enterprise would have been demanding but simply having good stories is the most important thing, and well, it didn't.
It should have had Sternbach designing for them. Something Voyager even had and it shows, a lot.
The cast was just not that fantastic. I am a fan of Bakula but he shouldn't have been Captain. A more colourful reccuring role for him would have fitted him better. T'Pol was *beep* and was more emotional than anyone on the show and was just there for candy and the rest of them didn't even get any decent screen time besides Trip.
Phlox was the best "actor" on the show, no doubt. I would have kept him as a main star but tweaked his character.
Oh for gods sake, I could go on for pages about why, what and how Enterprise sucked at.
It just did.
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Vader's Leg
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:34 am |
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It did not even make it through the traditional seven season's need I say more 
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Lord Borg
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003
Posts: 11214
Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:05 am |
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Bah, what is it with people and the hatred of the shows theme song? it was very fitting. As for the actors, I thought they were good, under rated really.
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Vader's Leg
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:07 am |
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In all honesty it was alot like a boy band song than something more fitting for a show like trek
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Mentalist
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Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Somewhere being a nut
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:08 am |
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The actors themselves were not ground breaking in the slightest but they were adequate. But with no good stories or character development you are left with just that. A bunch of actors being boring in a very expensive sci-fi setting.
And the song is total crap. How anyone can listen to it and call it good or fitting or any of these wishy wash responses when the song is cheesier than a piece of Porthos's breakfast I just don't know..
It was bad, accept and move on.
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Vader's Leg
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:11 am |
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So then we finally get to Braga and Berman those good for nuthin two bit pirates! 
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Lord Borg
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Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:12 am |
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Well, we all have our own opinions, mine is, the song was good, as were the actors, yours is differnt, and I respect that, but I dont have to "accept" it and move in. I respect your opinion though.
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Vader's Leg
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:14 am |
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respect? I think the word you're looking for is tolerance my friend 
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Lord Borg
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:15 am |
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No, its respect.  . as in, I respect your opinion, but I just feel differntly
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Vader's Leg
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:18 am |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | No, its respect. . as in, I respect your opinion, but I just feel differntly |
Remind me to quote you on that one sometime
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Mentalist
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 82
Location: Somewhere being a nut
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:44 am |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | Well, we all have our own opinions, mine is, the song was good, as were the actors, yours is differnt, and I respect that, but I dont have to "accept" it and move in. I respect your opinion though. |
Ok, I can get on the respect bandwagon. I except your view of things. But what did you think of the writing? I mean compared to so many shows these days and previous trek as well always suppling us with gripping stuff Enterprise always fell flat and couldn't deliver enough dvelopment and story to really grip the viewer. This changed a lot in season 4 when Coto came along to shake things up but a lot of damage was done and the franchise was hemoraging at that point.
Views?
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magenta
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Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 404
Location: AUSTRALIA
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:04 am |
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 I thought ENT was pretty average,and I hated Scott Bakula in the captains role!  He was out of his depth with the role,I liked him in Quantam Leap thou. T'pol was a pure sex object[like seven]to spice the show up.There were a few good looking guys in the show and some were good actors.I think new writers would have made a huge difference,the actors would of had a chance to make it something worthwhile. 
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Vader's Leg
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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| magenta wrote: | | I thought ENT was pretty average,and I hated Scott Bakula in the captains role! He was out of his depth with the role,I liked him in Quantam Leap thou. T'pol was a pure sex object[like seven]to spice the show up.There were a few good looking guys in the show and some were good actors.I think new writers would have made a huge difference,the actors would of had a chance to make it something worthwhile. |
hell yeah welcome to the club!
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magenta
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Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 404
Location: AUSTRALIA
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:07 am |
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I liked the intro song,but it was a really weird choice for a star trek show!
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nadia
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Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 8560
Location: Australia
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:08 am |
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| magenta wrote: | | I liked the intro song,but it was a really weird choice for a star trek show! |
Not really cause it says something about stars
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Vader's Leg
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:11 am |
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| nadia wrote: | | magenta wrote: | | I liked the intro song,but it was a really weird choice for a star trek show! |
Not really cause it says something about stars |
Yea that's true. It could have been better though.
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nadia
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Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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Location: Australia
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:12 am |
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| Vader's Leg wrote: | | nadia wrote: | | magenta wrote: | | I liked the intro song,but it was a really weird choice for a star trek show! |
Not really cause it says something about stars |
Yea that's true. It could have been better though. |
Well I think it was better then just having boring music playing or some one talking like they had in all the others!
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Mentalist
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Somewhere being a nut
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| Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:12 am |
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| nadia wrote: | | magenta wrote: | | I liked the intro song,but it was a really weird choice for a star trek show! |
Not really cause it says something about stars |
Oh well, as long as it says something about stars..
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