Batman Begins

lionhead · **Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:16 pm**

i've seen it yesterday. Its a decent movie. Bit wierd on how he got his weapons and armor, but the car was cool. Plus i didn't like the way his parents go killed, no joker? whats that all about?

Good villian though, didn't expect that to happen!

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Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

That could work, Siege. As comic book adaptationsdo have a tiny bit of independence on how they tell the story, I suppose they could go down that route. It'd certainly be interesting to see Nightwing on-screen.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

It would remove the obvious camp-factor (not to mention homoerotic undertones) of a man and his boy sidekick. I mean Batman could still watch over him (be a role model of sorts), but for the most part they stay indipendant of eachother.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Yes, I think I like that idea because it would enable any future Batman films to retain their dark, apocalyptic tone. The minute you bring a young, brightly coloured Robin into the fold, you risk watering down the franchise.

There were plans for Robin in both Batman and Batman Returns, but they decided not to in the end, one reason being that there wouldn't be enough screentime to do him justice. Whilst Batman Begins is in a class of it's own, the two Keaton movies are the best as far as I'm concerned, very dark and true to the spirit of the original Batman character. Robin just would not have worked in either movie, in my opinion.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

I can't really agree with you about the Burton Batflicks. I find them to be too gothic, I don't see Batman as a gothic character. He's dark, yes, but not the point of being goth. I realize I haven't read much Batman, but this is just based on my experiences with the character in other mediums. I think Batman: The Animated Series did it best, it portrayed the darkness of Batman without looking like a bondage film (Batman Returns).

I think Begins is the first film to do it correctly, and the fact that it's writer, director, and star are all comic book fans certainly helped (afterall, Tim Burton has even admitted he's never read a Batman comic book).

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Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

I just hope with Batman Begins being sucessful and Superman Returns likely to be a blockbuster that Warner Bros. might start digging into other DC characters, more specifically, Green Lantern.

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There is a Flash movie in the works actually. The script is being written by David S. Goyer, of Blade and Batman Begins fame.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

That's good news. Thanks for that. The first Blade movie and Batman Begins lived up to every expectation, so if Goyer is writing The Flash, we could be in for a good movie.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

You know I honestly like Blade II more than the first film.

Theresa · **Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:31 pm**

I'm nearly done with the book, and have liked it so far,

Though in the book we know what he's thinking, which makes it better.

Oliver · **Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:30 pm**

I don't remember if I posted in this thread before so I'll just say it now.

I saw this movie a few weeks ago and didn't really like it. I'm not saying it was bad, just that I expected more. I liked the first and second Batman movie a lot more.

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I'm a big fave of the first two as well, Oliver. Tim Burton, one of my favourite director's, did a good job and the films did a wonderful job of bringing Batman full circle. Remember, before the 1989 movie was released, the last on-screen, live-action Batman was the campy 60s character, played by Adam West (who, along with Burt Ward, reprised his role in the 1979 mini-series Legends of the Superheroes).

I do think the new movie is in a class of it's own. I won't spoil it for anyone who has seen it, but it's obvious to anyone who the villain is going to be in the sequel. And whilst nothing has been greenlit yet, I wouldn't be surprised to see another Batman film by 2007.

Theresa · **Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:44 am**

I didn't like the ending,

(The "fight" part).

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

One slight problem with the film was that some of the fight scenes were too chaotic and you couldn't see what was going on. I like to see a fight as much as anyone, but I like to know who's hitting who. I hope the director takes that on board, when filming the sequel.

Theresa · **Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:11 pm**

Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul. I like Ra's better. Remember, I've not seen the movie, only read the book, and Scarecrow was... nothing compared to Ra's, merely a pawn.

Leo Wyatt · **Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:26 pm**

I am probably the only person on here that thinks this movie is not that good.

nadia · cookie Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia

It was alright, I think that it was good in the way that they showed you how he became "batman". But I still think the one with that guy from oceans 11 was the best!

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:53 pm**

I had the unfortunate opportunity to see this movie today. I took it, figuring it would be better, but sheeeeeeeeesh. Talk about boring. The plot wasn't all that deep, it seemed to rely only its speical effects to keep people entertained. Even the love story between Wayne and whats-her-face was shallow.

Is this just me, but I seem to remember Bruce's parents being acrobats? Maybe I'm wrong.

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IntrepidIsMe · **Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:15 pm**

Oh, thanks for clearing that up.

charlie · **Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:24 pm**

This movie was a waste of my money. I wished I didn't go. It was boring in my opinion.