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 Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:45 pm Bush wants to shift global warming debate |
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Bush wants to shift global warming debate
LONDON, England (AP) -- Ahead of this week's G8 summit, President Bush says he wants to shift debate on global warming away from limits on greenhouse gas emissions to new technology that would reduce environmental harm without restricting energy use.
In an interview with British journalist Trevor McDonald to be broadcast on ITV television Monday, Bush repeated his opposition to the Kyoto Protocol on climate change and said the United States would not sign it or any similar deals limiting gas emissions.
"I think you can grow your economy and at the same time do a better job of harnessing greenhouse gases," Bush said. "That's exactly what I intend to talk to our partners about."
British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who hosts the three-day summit of major industrial powers that begins Wednesday in Scotland, plans to make action on global warming a top focus along with tackling poverty in Africa.
Bush spoke of his administration's investment of $20 billion (16.55 billion euros) in developing hydrogen-powered vehicles, zero-emission power stations and other technology.
The Bush administration opposes the 1997 Kyoto treaty because officials believe it would raise energy prices and cost 5 million U.S. jobs.
"My hope is -- and I think the hope of Tony Blair is -- to move beyond the Kyoto debate and to collaborate on new technologies that will enable the United States and other countries to diversify away from fossil fuels so that the air will be cleaner and that we have the economic and national security that comes from less dependence on foreign sources of oil," Bush said.
Blair, who has described global warming as "probably the most serious threat we face" wants an agreement among G8 leaders on the scientific threat posed by global warming and the urgent need for action.
He also wants greater research in so-called green technology, and to draw emerging economies such as China, India, Brazil and Mexico into the debate.
Prospects of agreement when the leaders of the United States, Russia, France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan join Blair in Gleneagles, Scotland, remain uncertain.
Bush described climate change as "a significant, long-term issue that we've got to deal with" and acknowledged that human activity is "to some extent" to blame.
Bush also made it clear that he was not ready to slash the farm subsidies that critics say distort global trade and make it difficult for African economies to compete unless the European Union was also prepared to scrap its Common Agricultural Policy.
"We've got agricultural subsidies, not nearly to the extent that our friends in the EU have," he said. "... The position of the U.S. government is, we're willing to do so and we will do so with our fine friends in the European Union."
In the interview, Bush was also asked if he would make a special effort to support Blair at the summit in return for the British leader's backing for the war in Iraq.
"I really don't view our relationship as one of quid pro quo," Bush replied. "Tony Blair made decisions on what he thought was best for keeping the peace and winning the war on terror, as I did. So I go to the G8 not really trying to make him look bad or good, but I go to the G8 with an agenda that I think is best for our country."
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I agree with Bush. This is an issue that is not going to go away in the near future. Working to limit the gases, but not do anything else, will not get us any farther. We can do much better by working on making technological advances that would reduce, or eliminate environmental harm, without limiting use. This would not only be better for the environment, but would also have a bonus, in that it could create new job sectors, and employment oppurtunities, boosting our econemy also.
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madlilnerd
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*clap clap* He finally admitted that there was something wrong 
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Theresa
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I guess you really don't read many press releases...
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webtaz99
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| Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:48 pm |
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Bush is way too deeply embedded in the oil business to get anything serious done about emissions. He harps on hydrogen, but the "Hydrogen economy" is a big lie (unless we get fusion going, and maybe even then).
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PrankishSmart
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We will never have hydrogen cars without the same power as a unleaded fuel car.
A hydrogen powered truck? Now I want to see that.
If we do want to go for hydrogen vehicles, we will have to limit the use, or have a engine so huge and heavy to produce the same power as unleaded it will not be worth it.
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webtaz99
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| Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:01 am |
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Read up on fuel cells and AC synchronous motors. Then apply some basic physics. It will change your view.
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PrankishSmart
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| Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:12 am |
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I want to see a 500hp fuel cell motor or AC motor 
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jonathan95
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there are many ways we can cut down,
but we do have to start off now or else its going to be too late we are already seeing the afects of global warming, but the fact is unless bush gets off his "something" and helps the rest of the world there is no point.
the tech is here right now to help we have alternitavly powered cars theres one person running his car of vegtable oil's.
Who cares how fast the cars go as long as they get you to where you want to go, personaly I think all cars should be only made to go certain speed nothing like we have now think of how many lives would be saved if cars were limited by design to go a lot slower than there top speeds are now.
Personaly I would like to see the working vecles put onto alternitave powed methods than cars right now since the larger vecles use up a lot more joice than cars do.
If every truck, digger etc used alternitvie's it would cut down a lot quicker if we just worked on cars all the time.
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| Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:06 am |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | I want to see a 500hp fuel cell motor or AC motor |
How many people on the street have 500hp cars? Electric cars can use in-hub motors, where each wheel is powered, giving them a much higher efficiency than a engine with a tranny.
The reason they design dinky little electric cars (whether they are battery- or fuel-cell-powered) is due to the low capacity of batteries or hydrogen tanks.
When the industry finally gets smart and uses ethanol fuel cells and bio-catalysts, they will easily be able to make a 500hp electric car.
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| Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:05 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | I guess you really don't read many press releases... |
Guess not I agree with him. Put more emphasis on improving technology to help the environment. Not Kyoto or anything like it.
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