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Puck
The Texan
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 Wed May 18, 2005 5:14 pm Trump: New WTC Plan 'Crap Architecture.' |
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To Donald Trump, the proposals for the replacement for the World Trade Center look like a junkyard. His solution? Rebuild the twin towers, more or less.
Standing in the lobby of his Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, the developer turned TV star on Wednesday presented a model of his own envisioned towers, reflecting the original shape of the skyscrapers that fell Sept. 11, 2001.
The towers he advocates would be 111 stories tall � one floor taller than the lost towers.
Plans for the site, to be dominated by a 1,776-foot Freedom Tower, have been stalled lately because of security concerns, though Gov. George Pataki assured New Yorkers last week that the project was not losing momentum.
"Failure to rebuild is not an option," the Republican governor said in a speech in downtown Manhattan.
But Trump had little use for the futuristic, angular Freedom Tower mode.
The plan "looks like a junkyard, a series of broken-down angles that don't match each other. And we have to live with this for hundreds of years?" he said. "It is the worst pile of crap architecture I've ever seen in my life."
However, Trump said he was leaving it up to developer Larry Silverstein, who owns the lease on the World Trade Center site, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the land, to execute the design first introduced last year by engineer Ken Gardner.
"I only have the power of persuasion," Trump said. "It's a very simple power, but sometimes it can be very strong."
Speaking for Silverstein, Howard J. Rubenstein said Trump was a friend, but "Silverstein's only concern right now is designing a safe and spectacular Freedom Tower in keeping with the well-established master plan for the site."
Though it would be taller than the twin towers, the Freedom Tower would have much of its top one-third given over to airy latticework and a spire emitting light into the night. Only around 70 floors would be usable office space.
Trump described the existing design as "essentially a skeleton" at the top. "If we rebuild the World Trade Center in the form of a skeleton, the terrorists win."
Trump also left room for an alternative to his plan, if tenants can't be found for the new towers. "If for some reason, it can't be built, because there is a possibility that people do not want to be in any of the buildings on the site, then what we should do is ... build a great memorial park," he said.
URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/05/18/financial/f131222D72.DTL
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The proposed Freedom Tower, designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP.
May 18: Developer Donald Trump gestures as he addresses reporters next to a model of the proposed World Trade Center known as the 'Twin Towers II.'
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed May 18, 2005 5:17 pm |
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I completly agree with Trump on this. Even though as a person, I think he is an ass, I really like his idea. The new design they are currently looking at does look stupid and like a skeleton. I love his idea of building them exactly the same as before, except one story higher. 
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Wed May 18, 2005 5:25 pm |
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lol, nice poll choices 
And I don't know...I like both...
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed May 18, 2005 5:26 pm |
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I like Trump's idea. It seems so defiant. Is like "You wanna knock our towers down? We'll just build them back higher."
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Lord Borg
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| Wed May 18, 2005 5:29 pm |
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Its kinda cool, but I have mixed feelings on this. though, it is basicly telling them "Ha ha, you didnt beat us"
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Link, the Hero of Time
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Joined: 15 Sep 2001
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| Wed May 18, 2005 5:44 pm |
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I really dont like the "Freedom Tower" idea. I'd have to agree with Trump's accurate depiction of what it is.
He has the right idea, rebuild them, but make them taller.
Show them we can rebild it, we have the technology. We can build it Better, Stronger and Faster then it was originally.
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webtaz99
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| Wed May 18, 2005 7:43 pm |
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I don't like Trump's idea either, but he's right about the present one.
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Mustkillbret
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| Thu May 19, 2005 7:24 am |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | I really dont like the "Freedom Tower" idea. I'd have to agree with Trump's accurate depiction of what it is.
He has the right idea, rebuild them, but make them taller.
Show them we can rebild it, we have the technology. We can build it Better, Stronger and Faster then it was originally. |
they'll move now? 
Just as long as this time its done properly, no sprayed on fireproofing coming off on rust and stupid things like that, and proper floor structures so it doesnt just go..... *collapse* when it gets hit... its mostly because of the lightweight structure anyway.... Truss indeed..
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Seven of Nine
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| Thu May 19, 2005 7:56 am |
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I'd like the twin towers to be rebuilt, but higher. More than the freedom tower, it would show that America would stand up to terrorism, and won't stay down.
The freedom tower just looks icky.
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CJ Cregg
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| Thu May 19, 2005 12:33 pm |
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This new idea is great. It shows the terrorists that they didnt win and they just made us stronger, taller and better
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voy416
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| Thu May 19, 2005 1:35 pm |
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the twin towers should be rebuilt and higher because the "freedom tower" does look a little stupid. it looks like they put pieces together and said BAM a tower
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Theresa
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| Thu May 19, 2005 2:17 pm |
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The only thing I like about the freedom tower is the 1776 feet. Trump's idea, IMO, is better.
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Captain Dappet
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| Thu May 19, 2005 2:18 pm |
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Trump is the height of capitalistic bastard-ness, but his idea is the better one in this case, I'd say.
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