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Republican_Man
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 Tue May 10, 2005 5:46 pm "The Politics of Cowardice"--Bill O'Reilly's new c |
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This is Bill O'Reilly's latest provacotive column. I think he's right on on this issue, but what say you?
| Bill O'Reilly wrote: | The Politics of Cowardice
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, May 05, 2005
It took the brutal sexual assault and murder of a nine year-old girl to force the state of Florida to pass a law to protect children. Just days after Jessica Lunsford was found murdered, buried alive, the state legislature passed a law mandating a penalty of 25 years to life for any person convicted of molesting a child under 12 years of age. And if the molester ever did get out of prison, he or she would have to wear an electronic monitor for life.
The law passed because of citizen outrage; the guy who confessed to killing Jessica, John Couey, was a convicted sex offender who was running around unsupervised.
The media made a big deal out of photographing Governor Jeb Bush signing the law, but why didn't he and every other American governor sign a law like this years ago? Everybody knows that kids are being molested in great numbers. A new study out of Hofstra University says that 10% of American school kids are molested by their teachers! Unbelievable.
The system that is supposed to protect children has broken down in the United States for two reasons: first, there is no national database for sexual offenders, so they can roam from state to state without people knowing who they are.
And second, the apathy of some judges and prosecutors is stunning. In Jessica Lunsford's case, John Couey failed to register as a sex offender as required by Florida law and the state did not track him down. In fact, Couey's sister, his niece and another man, admit they hid the pervert when police were searching for Jessica. According to the niece, Couey's sister then bought him a bus ticket so he could flee the state.
Investigators also believe that Jessica was being tortured inside the trailer where those people lived with Couey. Yet no charges have been filed by Florida prosecutor Brad King against the three individuals who protected Couey and may have known about Jessica's abduction and murder.
This is simply obscene, but it is not unusual. King has told the local media there is no law in Florida that would allow him to prosecute these three revolting people. Lawyers I've spoken with disagree, but King is standing firm despite growing outrage.
King's inaction is what kills children. An aggressive prosecutor finds a way to bring those three to justice. A judge who cares puts child molesters away for the longest time possible. But all over the USA this is not happening.
Florida is ground zero for attacks on children, but they are happening everywhere. Don't believe the propagandists who say the problem has always been there, that it is no worse now. It is worse. That's because our justice system is chaotic and many judges are consumed by politics, making liberal rulings that allow the most vicious people imaginable to roam the streets.
Jessica Lunsford died for our sins. In the end, her gruesome demise did motivate Florida pols to at least do something. But three people who did nothing to save Jessica are still not being held accountable. And the shame of our society continues.
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| Tue May 10, 2005 8:14 pm |
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I believe that the utmost care should be given in gathering evidence and preparing for trial. And utmost care should be taken in presentation of eveidence at trial, so that any chance of mistrial is avoided, making it a single-pass process. But if a person is convicted of sexual predation of one or more minors, they should be immediately executed by decapitation.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue May 10, 2005 8:17 pm |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | I believe that the utmost care should be given in gathering evidence and preparing for trial. And utmost care should be taken in presentation of eveidence at trial, so that any chance of mistrial is avoided, making it a single-pass process. But if a person is convicted of sexual predation of one or more minors, they should be immediately executed by decapitation. |
Whoa--decapitation? Why that?
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webtaz99
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| Tue May 10, 2005 8:21 pm |
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Maximum effect with minimal expense. Even cheaper than a bullet.
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Theresa
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| Tue May 10, 2005 8:59 pm |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | I believe that the utmost care should be given in gathering evidence and preparing for trial. And utmost care should be taken in presentation of eveidence at trial, so that any chance of mistrial is avoided, making it a single-pass process. But if a person is convicted of sexual predation of one or more minors, they should be immediately executed by decapitation. |
I don't think I'd lose any sleep at night.
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| Theresa wrote: | | webtaz99 wrote: | | I believe that the utmost care should be given in gathering evidence and preparing for trial. And utmost care should be taken in presentation of eveidence at trial, so that any chance of mistrial is avoided, making it a single-pass process. But if a person is convicted of sexual predation of one or more minors, they should be immediately executed by decapitation. |
I don't think I'd lose any sleep at night. |
Same here, but I don't know if the Liberal ideology would accept it, therefore it could not occur 
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I can dream......
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Wed May 11, 2005 7:39 am |
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First of all, I'm pretty much sure that there's no way 10% of American school kids are molested by teachers. I'd want to see an independent poll confirming that. I still think that the American justice system has an ineffective structure. I advocate a rehabilitation-execution structure. Especially for mentally challenged or disabled people, who need help, not to be thrown in prison. Everyone deserves a second chance, but there's no excuse for not using caution with violent offenders.
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | First of all, I'm pretty much sure that there's no way 10% of American school kids are molested by teachers. I'd want to see an independent poll confirming that. I still think that the American justice system has an ineffective structure. I advocate a rehabilitation-execution structure. Especially for mentally challenged or disabled people, who need help, not to be thrown in prison. Everyone deserves a second chance, but there's no excuse for not using caution with violent offenders. |
Trust me, it's a fact, and it's startling and hard to believe, I know
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| Wed May 11, 2005 11:34 am |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | First of all, I'm pretty much sure that there's no way 10% of American school kids are molested by teachers. I'd want to see an independent poll confirming that. I still think that the American justice system has an ineffective structure. I advocate a rehabilitation-execution structure. Especially for mentally challenged or disabled people, who need help, not to be thrown in prison. Everyone deserves a second chance, but there's no excuse for not using caution with violent offenders. |
Under the current statutes, "sexual harrassment" consists of any behavior that makes the recipient uncomfortable. That includes looks. I find it easy to believe that 10% of kids feel they have been ogled.
I don't think everyone deserves a second chance. Those who prey on children or the elderly, for instance, do not.
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I still want to see confirmation for those numbers. As for giving second chances, I'm not suggesting the courts just say "well, this was only the first time, so try again." There should be treatment/rehabilitation involved. When it becomes evident that someone cannot be made to function in society however, the death penalty should be utilized.
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I agree 90% of what Bill O'Reilly says.
You cant disagree with him because he usually always right.
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Dirt
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I think it's kind of easy for him to ask "why now?", but I don't think he has been asking himself for laws like that (correct me if I'm wrong). There's always going to be faults in the legal system, that is something you can't really avoid. Also I think he makes it appear as though this happens 24/7 to all kids, kind of going for a fear effect I think.  But nuff said on that, I personally believe that people like this ought to be locked up for life.
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Republican_Man
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| Dirt wrote: | | I think it's kind of easy for him to ask "why now?", but I don't think he has been asking himself for laws like that (correct me if I'm wrong). There's always going to be faults in the legal system, that is something you can't really avoid. Also I think he makes it appear as though this happens 24/7 to all kids, kind of going for a fear effect I think. But nuff said on that, I personally believe that people like this ought to be locked up for life. |
Faults, yes. But this is CONSISTENT fault. There are SO MANY problems right now that it shows that the system MUST be fixed, and it's finally happening in Florida, with the passing of the Jessica Lunsford act. And he's not saying that this happens 24/7 to all kids, just that it's happening continuously and more and more often, and it MUST be dealt with. And he's right.
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