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Reports: U.S. Warns Japan of N. Korea Missile
Sunday, May 01, 2005
TOKYO � The U.S. military informed Japan (search) that North Korea (search) may have fired a short-range missile toward the Sea of Japan on Sunday morning, Kyodo News service and national broadcaster NHK reported.
The reports quoted unidentified government sources as saying that the U.S. military informed Japan's Defense Agency of the possible missile launch. The government was attempting to confirm the information, the reports said.
The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo and the U.S. military both refused to comment, and an official at the Japanese Defense Agency said he could not confirm the report. The South Korean defense ministry also said it could not confirm the account.
NHK said the missile was believed to have been fired from the reclusive nation's east coast and to have traveled 65 miles into the Sea of Japan (search).
Word of the possible test came just days after a top U.S. military intelligence official told a U.S. Senate committee that North Korea has the ability to arm a missile with a nuclear weapon, a potentially significant advance for the communist state.
Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, in testimony on Thursday, did not specify whether he was talking about a short-range missile or a long-range one that could reach the United States.
Two defense officials later said that U.S. intelligence analysts believe North Korea is several years away from being able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile that could reach the United States from the Korean Peninsula (search).
North Korea's missile development program has spurred Japan to join the United States in putting together a joint missile-defense system. North Korea startled Tokyo in 1998 by launching a long-range ballistic missile over the Japanese archipelago and into the Pacific Ocean.
Pyongyang has played upon the threat by intermittently test-firing short-range missiles since then.
The Japanese Cabinet in February approved legislation that would allow the defense chief to order the military to shoot down incoming missiles.
Six-nation talks aimed at persuading North Korea to give up its nuclear ambitions have been stalled since last June. Washington's top envoy on the issue, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, said on Thursday in South Korea that the North's refusal to return to the talks is a problem but they are still the best way to resolve the matter.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun May 01, 2005 12:05 pm |
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Danger is on the horizon. With Iran and North Korea, I sense dark times ahead. Someone should make a world RPG about this time period!  
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Dirt
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| Sun May 01, 2005 11:14 pm |
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I wish they had proof, we could just be building up to another one of them Iraq things when things appereared that actually weren't there (*cue twilight zone tune*)
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zero
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| Mon May 02, 2005 1:15 pm |
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^very good point.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Mon May 02, 2005 2:08 pm |
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only to you liberals
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Dirt
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| Mon May 02, 2005 2:54 pm |
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Well at least the WMDs we see are actually there, they don't just dissapear into vast nothingness
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zero
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| Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm |
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Yep, they are there. And totally capaible of doing some "harm" to the US. I wonder what bush is gonna do now? Maybe invade and take over??
I doubt it. IMO Nothing will be done until they actually do use the weapons against us. But until then... they can continue to "talk" about the issue.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Mon May 02, 2005 6:54 pm |
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Being a liberal, North Korea is one country I'd actually support an invasion of. Get China behind it first though, that's one country we don't want to make an enemy of.
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Founder
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:02 pm |
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Whats with all these commie nations coming into power?
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Republican_Man
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:10 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | Whats with all these commie nations coming into power? |
The liberals wouldn't let Reagan finish his war on communism 
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Zeke Zabertini
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And a damn good thing, too. However, don't mistake nations like China and North Korea as communist. Communism is universal acceptance and given social and economic equality. No "communist" nation in history has ever had that. What you want to destroy isn't communism, it's the totalitarianists that use the word as a shield to hide behind.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:40 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | And a damn good thing, too. However, don't mistake nations like China and North Korea as communist. Communism is universal acceptance and given social and economic equality. No "communist" nation in history has ever had that. What you want to destroy isn't communism, it's the totalitarianists that use the word as a shield to hide behind. |
No, it's communism, alright, but not necessary the IDEAL form of communism.
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Zeke Zabertini
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The ideal form is the only form. Communism was designed as an ideal. Therefore, stupid though it may sound, until it works, which is probably never, it's not communism. It's a nice idea, but it's not happening until we overcome a lot of personal and societal issues. In the meantime, it would be nice if these dictators would stop calling their nations communist and sullying the name.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:47 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | The ideal form is the only form. Communism was designed as an ideal. Therefore, stupid though it may sound, until it works, which is probably never, it's not communism. It's a nice idea, but it's not happening until we overcome a lot of personal and societal issues. In the meantime, it would be nice if these dictators would stop calling their nations communist and sullying the name. |
I disagree. An ideal, yes. But in practice, this is what you get. This is communism in practice. It is not not communism.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:53 pm |
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Not exactly. The governments in question are taking advantage of their power. In any case, since we all agree on the basic premise that communism cannot work in the real world, at least not anytime soon, why are we going over it again and again in multiple threads? I don't see any dissenting opinion here. It's like you're just trying to stick me and my kind with "commie lover" signs and write us off. Whatever your intentions, stop it. You calling me a communist is like me calling you a fascist. It's terrible exaggeration.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon May 02, 2005 10:55 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | Not exactly. The governments in question are taking advantage of their power. In any case, since we all agree on the basic premise that communism cannot work in the real world, at least not anytime soon, why are we going over it again and again in multiple threads? I don't see any dissenting opinion here. It's like you're just trying to stick me and my kind with "commie lover" signs and write us off. Whatever your intentions, stop it. You calling me a communist is like me calling you a fascist. It's terrible exaggeration. |
I'm not going after YOU in any way. Just communism. I believe communism to be the way it is now, but the IDEAL communism cannot be achieved.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Mon May 02, 2005 11:02 pm |
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Call it what it is then; totalitarianism, dictatorship, or, if you're attached to the word, failed communism. Humor me by not sullying my beliefs. Since we're in agreement, I'll leave this thread for the moment.
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| Mon May 02, 2005 11:04 pm |
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Er . . . yes . . . you're arguing semantics, and wasting database space . Call it communism, call it dictatorship, call it an autocracy--it is an imperfect form of government that has led to suffering of individuals and quality of life.
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