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mimic0883
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[size=9]The tie fighters keep getting brought up but you have to keep in mind that they dont have shields themselves let alone air re-breathers (why do you think the fighters wear breath helmets) so in essence tie fighters are very weak ships and really not a problem voyager could destroy them with a spread from her phasers and then use chakotay's attack plan and bam down goes the star destroyer, or better yet since voyager is small enough the land voyager inside and take it over and use the SD advance engines to get themselves home in two hours......how do you like that[/size]
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Cap. Proton
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| Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:45 am |
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| Founder wrote: | How the hell could VOY hope to beat a Star Destroyer?  |
Very easy, Tricobalt Devices, Photon Torpedos, Phasers vs. Ion Cannons, Turbolasers and Proton Torpedos. Plus the fact that Voyager can outmanouvre the laser cannons easly...Voyager wins asleep
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Kyle Reese
Cadet Gunnery Sergeant
Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:49 pm |
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| Cap. Proton wrote: | | Plus the fact that Voyager can outmanouvre the laser cannons easly...Voyager wins asleep |
You sure? Try playing XWA, you're in a small one man fighter and see how hard it is to avoid those cannons  And those fighters are SO much smaller than Voyager. Even in the A-wing it's pretty hard. I'd still side with the Star Destroyer.
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Sonic74205
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:46 pm |
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| Kyle Reese wrote: | | Cap. Proton wrote: | | Plus the fact that Voyager can outmanouvre the laser cannons easly...Voyager wins asleep |
You sure? Try playing XWA, you're in a small one man fighter and see how hard it is to avoid those cannons And those fighters are SO much smaller than Voyager. Even in the A-wing it's pretty hard. I'd still side with the Star Destroyer. |
Lasers even turbo lasers do almost nothing to federation sheilds. the lasers wouldn't be a threat. After a few days of attacking voyager maybe. but nah.
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Kyle Reese
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:28 pm |
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Now where the hell'd you hear that? Besides your friend I mean. It's not like we've ever actually SEEN them go head to head. You might trust your friend, but his word isn't good enough for me.
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Sonic74205
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:33 pm |
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You see it in TNG A ship group of ships which have lasers for primary weapons threaten the enterprise and picard mentions that they do hardly anything to their shields and picard hardly raised the shields at all and they were still no threat
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Kyle Reese
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:35 pm |
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What makes you think they're the same kind of lasers? I've never watched TNG, which episode is that?
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Founder
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:45 pm |
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Yeah. The lasers have been established as different as I recall. Besides the Ion cannons would tear right through their shields in ONE shot. Then the lasers, proton missles, and kamikaze TIE fighters WILL be a threat. 
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PrankishSmart
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| Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:32 am |
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What universe will the battle take place in? The Star Wars or Star Trek universe? I think the star destroyer would win in the SW universe, and I hate to say it but Voyager would probally win if the battle was in the ST universe. Lasers are just no match for shields in the ST universe.
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Sonic74205
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| Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:20 am |
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^ I agree
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Beta6
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| Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:55 pm |
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| Chakotay1988 wrote: | Also because i forgot about the tie fighters.
Whilst at warp en route to the stardestroyer just before the battle. Voyager equips all of it's shuttles with the Delta Flyers Refractive shielding. The as voyager drops out of warp the shuttles activate the refractive shielding and then launch its 2 Type 9 shuttles, 1 Type 8 and the delta flyer to help pick off the tie fighters that are on voyagers tail. So as voyager is taking on the stardestroyer and tie fighters are chasing after it, voyagers shuttles which can't be seen or picked up on sensors are behind the tie fighters picking them off by firing there phasers and the delta flyer firing it's borg enhanced weapons. This will leave the tie fighters confused not knowing whats destroying them. |
your so informative! I love it.
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captin jayneway
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:52 am |
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| Chakotay1988 wrote: | | You see it in TNG A ship group of ships which have lasers for primary weapons threaten the enterprise and picard mentions that they do hardly anything to their shields and picard hardly raised the shields at all and they were still no threat |
Yes i have saw that episode ! lol stupid lasers  
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Tuvok8917
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I agree with Chakotay1988. An Stardestroyer can never defeat the Voyager. Voyager is to fast in warp, and a Stardestroyer doesn`t even have warp.
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Cap. Proton
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:27 am |
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Dosn't Impulse-engines run down a hyperdrive?
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Founder
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:37 pm |
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| Tuvok8917 wrote: | | I agree with Chakotay1988. An Stardestroyer can never defeat the Voyager. Voyager is to fast in warp, and a Stardestroyer doesn`t even have warp. |
No it has Hyperdrive, which is a lot faster. How will warp help it win in a fight?
| Cap. Proton wrote: | | Dosn't Impulse-engines run down a hyperdrive? |
Hell no. Hyperdrive is ten times faster than Warp. Ships in SW can travel around the entire galaxy in weeks. While VOY was stuck in the Delta Quadrant for 75 years....
Back on topic...
Star Destroyer would crush VOY. Can anyone offer proof on how it could beat it?
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:40 pm |
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u say that Founder cause you like Star Wars better and hog wash.Everybody knows Voyager would win.
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Founder
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:43 pm |
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No I say it because im informed. If I like SW better than why did I admit that a Q could beat a Jedi? Obviously im not like you. Im not biased. I admit that a Soverign can beat a Defiant. Its FACTS.
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captin jayneway
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Joined: 12 Sep 2003
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:50 pm |
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i think voyager would win because seven or b'lanne would probally invent a new improved wepon of some sort or modifie the shielding or anything like that
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Beta6
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Posts: 475
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| Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:52 pm |
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you and your facts! You shouldn't take this SOOOO seriously!
I still stick to my previous answer!
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7of9_made it awesome
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| Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:02 pm |
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look! if two a-wings can disable a star destroyers shields and then cause it to self destuct...... why the hell couldnt voyager do it???
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Founder
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| Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:04 pm |
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| 7of9_made it awesome wrote: | | look! if two a-wings can disable a star destroyers shields and then cause it to self destuct...... why the hell couldnt voyager do it??? |
They didn't cause it to "self-destruct". It rammed into the Bridge. IF a ship rammed into the bridge of VOY and killed the Senior Staff, then VOY would be dead in space too.
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StarFury
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Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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| Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:21 pm |
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Voyager would win in this scenario
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7of9_made it awesome
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| Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:10 pm |
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NO! Sisko person! That was the super stardestroyer! i am talking about the one in the backgroup when you see admiral Ackbar co-ordinating the ttacking force!
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rabbit
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| Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:04 pm |
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Voyager would stay out of range of the little turrets so all the star destroyer has is the super laser... the super laser takes a while to aim and could not hit a moving ship, especially voyager. Voyager would just beam a photon torpedo in or fire torpedoes...
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Cap. Proton
Master Chief
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| Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:30 am |
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| Founder wrote: | | Tuvok8917 wrote: | | I agree with Chakotay1988. An Stardestroyer can never defeat the Voyager. Voyager is to fast in warp, and a Stardestroyer doesn`t even have warp. |
No it has Hyperdrive, which is a lot faster. How will warp help it win in a fight?
| Cap. Proton wrote: | | Dosn't Impulse-engines run down a hyperdrive? |
Hell no. Hyperdrive is ten times faster than Warp. Ships in SW can travel around the entire galaxy in weeks. While VOY was stuck in the Delta Quadrant for 75 years....
Back on topic...
Star Destroyer would crush VOY. Can anyone offer proof on how it could beat it? |
lol, warp...4-5 or something runs out hyperdrive
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