Nearly Half of Blacks, Latinos Drop Out, School Study Shows

Founder · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:18 pm**

No you didn't say that. All you said was its in our culture. Maybe next time you can go into detail. Maybe you mean the culture of LA. Not Hispanic culture in general.

Beta6 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:29 pm**

is there anything else you wanna bag on me for? I'm waiting.....

Founder · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:32 pm**

"bag you"? Oh im sorry that I got offended you insulted my race. How inconsiderate of me.

Just drop it. You're not contributing anything to the converstion by bating me. I've said what I wanted to say about this.

Beta6 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:34 pm**

yep so have i.

Hitchhiker · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:52 pm**

In my opinion, the crucial element is the educational environment. The way that most schools are set up, some people are very geared toward learning, and will do very well. Others do not like the way education is presented to them, and thus find it boring and uninteresting. If they find it boring, they aren't as inclined to make an effort. Parental pressure can affect this both positively and negatively.

Schools are just starting to become aware that not everyone learns in the same manner, but so far I see only minimal evidence that they are changing the cirriculum to reflect this awareness. I do fairly well in school, I like my school and enjoy learning it. Obviously, however, others do not like it as well, and school boards need to focus on providing a larger diversity of learning/teaching styles.

Beta6 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:13 pm**

Beta6 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:15 pm**

and yes they should come up with a different method of teaching. But teachers try their hardest.. I'm sure. And teachers in CA aren't even appreciated, get paid hardly anything.. So for what they have to put up with, I think they are doing a good job.
I wouldn't be able to do it.... that is for sure!

webtaz99 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:23 pm**

I saw a show where a school that specialized in failing students divided them not by age or grade level but by their methods of learning , such as:
Reading (self-study)
Hearing (lectures)
Seeing (examples)
Doing (activities)
Speaking (repetition) (sounds weird, but it works)

Most people learn best using a combination of their two best methods.

They showed a boy who could never get better than 30% on a fractions test. The school system said he was learning disabled, but testing showed he was a seeing/doing learner. After spending just one week in a class tailored to his learning style, he was making 90%+ on the same tests.

I believe all schools should be run this way. It won't solve any social problems by itself, but it gives everyone their best possible chance to learn. Nevertheless, the student MUST have the will to succeed. No teacher alive can make up for a lack of that.

I feel the biggest problem with schooling is that the kids see that they are being "processed" to be "part of the system". Every generation thinks that ones before it have screwed everything up, and they believe they don't need to become part of the system. The truth is, although "the system" changes slowly from gen to gen, it has always been there and will always be. It's a result of human nature. The sad fact is, the better you are at getting in sync with the "the system", the better off you are.

Seven of Nine · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:12 pm**

From what you just said, I'm a reading/seeing learner. The standard methods of revision presented to me just didn't work, so I developed my own that basically just meant lots of reading and rereading of the same material... it worked

borgslayer · **Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:44 pm**

Most Latino Kids, and Black Kids now a days in LA are having lots of trouble in school because of gangs, lazy teachers, and family troubles at home. Most of these are teens and they have too work to survive to support their family and not just focus on school 90% of the time.

This is why so many drops out are happening.

If you have a good life you won't drop out of school.

If you have a bad life then you might just drop out.

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:09 pm**

Leo Wyatt · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:30 pm**

Some parents make kids go to work to teach them responsibities so when they are old enough to move out, they can support themselves..

Theresa · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:32 pm**

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:48 pm**

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:48 pm**

Theresa · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:59 pm**

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:07 pm**

^ ok, I don't understand how this all of a sudden turned out to be the teachers fault?

Theresa · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:11 pm**

No one said "all". But they are to blame, too.

Leo Wyatt · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:12 pm**

Parents who make their kids drop out of school is not where I am from. In my home state, Parents try their darnest to get their kids to stay in school. Must be certain states or something. Cause I never heard of parents making their kids quit school just to support the family then parents are simply crazy for it if they do, do it that way ...

Founder · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:25 pm**

No one said the parents are "making" their kids quit school. Its the sitaution.

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:27 pm**

well, the situation and making them is the same thing....really.

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:28 pm**

Founder · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:32 pm**

Beta6 · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:33 pm**

they should not be providing for their families... period. But I'm not gonna go back into the same debate we had.

Arellia · **Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:43 pm**

Why shouldn't kids work towards providing for their families? When times are tough, sometimes you have to. I come from a long line of people who have worked and gone to school (Hard to do, but they did) while they lived at home and gave the money up so that they had a place to live. Just how it works. That's not a sin. Dropping out isn't a good idea, and the kids should know that. Prefferably, they would balance work and school, which is possible. A little more difficult, but possible. "Kids should not be providing at all" might be true...but one learns a lot while doing so. And sometimes you don't have that luxury.

Since there is such a difference in whites vs colored people graduating, shouldn't they then just study the differences between the two and try to figure out what the real problem is? Why should it be--why are the other dropping, rather than what seems to be working in the white kids?