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Beta6
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 Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:27 pm Nearly Half of Blacks, Latinos Drop Out, School Study Shows |
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Nearly Half of Blacks, Latinos Drop Out, School Study Shows
By Duke Helfand, Times Staff Writer
Nearly half of the Latino and African American students who should have graduated from California high schools in 2002 failed to complete their education, according to a Harvard University report released Wednesday.
In the Los Angeles Unified School District, the situation was even worse, with just 39% of Latinos and 47% of African Americans graduating, compared with 67% of whites and 77% of Asians.
The report concluded that the public remains largely unaware of the true extent of the problem because the state uses "misleading and inaccurate" methods to report dropout and graduation rates.
The California Department of Education reported that 87% of students graduated in 2002, but researchers pegged the rate at just 71%. Nationally, about 68% of students graduate on time, according to the analysis.
The troubling graduation rates are most alarming in minority communities, where students are more likely to attend what researchers call "dropout factories."
The exodus of tens of thousands of students before 12th grade is exacting significant social and economic costs through higher unemployment, increased crime and billions of dollars in lost revenue, according to the report by researchers from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, UCLA and UC Santa Barbara, among others.
Too long to post all, if you wanna read more about this topic here is the link. |
http://www.latimes.com/news/yahoo/la-me-graduate24mar24,1,3766690.story?coll=la-newsaol-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:28 pm |
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Why is that? Do they not wanna graduate? Or do you think it is their culture to not care? I'm in shock.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:30 pm |
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In our culture to not care? Screw you. (Yeah yeah yeah. Im gonna get warned/banned. She deserved it. That was racist.)
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:39 pm |
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omg, I so did not mean it in a racial way. I was asking a question. I am a little hispanic too, why would I be talking about races?
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:40 pm |
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And in LA, most blacks don't care about school... obviously by the statistics.. and the lations don't even speak english! So I guess it is true.
But again, I was not trying to be racial. And sorry you took it that way.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:43 pm |
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You've been told twice before to put your articles in quotes. Everyone else obeys the rules, you can to. If you can't, then don't make any new topics, or refrain from posting in WN altogether, 
And you did imply your statement in an anti-racial manner. Choose your wording more carefully. It has nothing to do with race or culture that decisions are made by individuals.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:44 pm |
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What you said was racist. You said its in our culture to not go to school. If you're part Hispanic, then you're even dumber for making fun of yourself. Blacks don't care about schools? Why? Because a lot drop out? Life is hard. Especially when most of the blacks who drop out live in the ghetto. Latinos don't speak English. I speak English. So does every spanish person I know. You're talking about people who just got here or are too old to relearn a language. You don't even know what you're talking about. All you're doing is spouting off racial slurs.
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm |
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omg, seriously.. This is LA... not wherever you are. If you knew how it was here then you will understand what i mean when is ay most latinos don't speak english. And no i was not making fun of myself like you said, because i never meant to "make fun" of anyone.
And i did not say it was in your culture not to go to schoo, maybe i said not to care. But never about going to school.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:01 pm |
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[quote="IntrepidIsMe"]You've been told twice before to put your articles in quotes. Everyone else obeys the rules, you can to. If you can't, then don't make any new topics, or refrain from posting in WN altogether,
Oh sorry, i guess i forgot???
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:01 pm |
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I already explained why the latinos don't speak English where you are. Ok, so its in my culture to not care about dropping out of school? Wow, much better. 
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:05 pm |
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Well, perhaps YOU can tell me why those stats say they drop out so much, Since you know everything about your race.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:13 pm |
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What I do know is that it isn't in my culture. Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean you should resort to racist remarks. First of all, not all Hispanics drop out. Second of all the answer is simple, life. Whites and Asians, not all, tend to live in better places. Where survival is not exactly a factor. They can step out their doors without fear of getting shot. It isn't easy and a lot of schools don't care about the students. Especially not ones that live in urban areas. My g/f is Indian and takes all AP classes. I wasn't in AP. I was in the average classes. She talked to me about how much the AP teachers break their backs to get the kids in college. While my teachers simply help me pass and then move onto the next grade. Its the same for them. A lot of schools in urban areas don't have teachers that will do that for students. Eventually lack of education and dangerous life on the streets is too much. Especially for kids.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:18 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | What I do know is that it isn't in my culture. Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean you should resort to racist remarks. First of all, not all Hispanics drop out. Second of all the answer is simple, life. Whites and Asians, not all, tend to live in better places. Where survival is not exactly a factor. They can step out their doors without fear of getting shot. It isn't easy and a lot of schools don't care about the students. Especially not ones that live in urban areas. My g/f is Indian and takes all AP classes. I wasn't in AP. I was in the average classes. She talked to me about how much the AP teachers break their backs to get the kids in college. While my teachers simply help me pass and then move onto the next grade. Its the same for them. A lot of schools in urban areas don't have teachers that will do that for students. Eventually lack of education and dangerous life on the streets is too much. Especially for kids. |
I had a hard life, with sexual and mental abuse and i still graduated. My grandparents (who i lived with) didn't even care if i went to school or not. But I did. And now i'm doing my own thing, so you can't use living bad lives as an excuse hun. If the parents cared, they would do anything to keep their children in school so they can have a future. I'm sure teachers try their best to help their students as well, Maybe the ones that drop out are the ones who don't care about it.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:23 pm |
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Yeah right. I'm sure its that simple. You definitly did not have as hard a life as they do. You still had a safe life, even if it was a screwed up one. oh so now you know the parents don't care? More racist and ignorant remarks. You're on a roll with those. Maybe its hard to keep control of your kids, when you're working 11 hours a day to barely keep up with food and rent. These parents break their backs to get here, some illegally, so their kids can have a better life. So don't you damn say that these parents don't care.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:23 pm |
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Founder's right. It's not the race. It's just the stats.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:29 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | Yeah right. I'm sure its that simple. You definitly did not have as hard a life as they do. You still had a safe life, even if it was a screwed up one. oh so now you know the parents don't care? More racist and ignorant remarks. You're on a roll with those. Maybe its hard to keep control of your kids, when you're working 11 hours a day to barely keep up with food and rent. These parents break their backs to get here, some illegally, so their kids can have a better life. So don't you damn say that these parents don't care. |
If i cared about my kids education i would make sure they were in school and doing well.. i can promise you that. And who are you to tell me my life was not hard? You have no idea what went on in my life, so don't try to tell me it was easy. And working 11 hours a day is not hard at all... it is my daily routine, once u grow up and move out on your own, you will realize that.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:30 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Founder's right. It's not the race. It's just the stats. |
lol, huh?
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:33 pm |
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Working 11 hours a day is not hard? Somehow I don't think you take the menial jobs most Hispanics are given. Im sure you're going to keep saying that you go through everything Hispanic people go through and more. Save that BS for someone who will believe it. Their parents do care. Thats why they fought to get into this country. They try and give their kids the best they can. BTW? Don't talk to me about how you would treat your kids, Ms. If I don't want a baby, I'll abort it.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:35 pm |
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lol, that last comment was so cute! hehe. But yea I would make sure they were in school.
I did not say i go through everything the mexican race does.. But I do work 11-12 hour days a lot.. mostly every day being that i have two jobs. It isn't bs it is true.
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Yea id abort if i got preg cause i am doing everything to prevent it from happeneing. well, having really safe sex...
If i were ready to have a child with my husband that would be a diff story.. u better believe they would be in school, and id make sure they were doing their work.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:35 pm |
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And I'm sure they do care about their kids... But i still think if they wanted to give them a better life they should see to it that thier kids are doing well in school. THAT'S ALL!
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:38 pm |
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Yeah. Only you would find abortions funny.
Working 11-12 hours VS working 11-12 hours in menial jobs Hispanics are given does not compare. So wh bring that up?
They try everything they can to make sure the kids are doing well in school. Maybe not all, but EVERY race has neglagent parents. Some kids are to blame, but it certainly is not a race thing.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:40 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | Yeah. Only you would find abortions funny.
Working 11-12 hours VS working 11-12 hours in menial jobs Hispanics are given does not compare. So wh bring that up?
They try everything they can to make sure the kids are doing well in school. Maybe not all, but EVERY race has neglagent parents. Some kids are to blame, but it certainly is not a race thing. |
I agree, every race has neglagent parents. I never said the hispanics were neglagent. And yea, some kids are to blame... But why are they the second largest stat on dropping out if it is ONLY the kids? clearly something else is going on.
I never said abortions were funny, hun. chill k?
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:42 pm |
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| Beta6 wrote: | I agree, every race has neglagent parents. I never said the hispanics were neglagent. And yea, some kids are to blame... But why are they the second largest stat on dropping out if it is ONLY the kids? clearly something else is going on.
I never said abortions were funny, hun. chill k? |
No, but you did say that it was a "culture" thing. I already told you what was "going on".
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:44 pm |
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well I believe in what the stats say. I need proof to believe something, and that is my proof. I guess we disagree on this too.
No biggie tho...
I just don't want you to think I'm being racial. Because I'm not. If i were... trust me, hun, You'd know! 
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| Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:46 pm |
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Blaming it on the kids is not racist. But saying that its part of my culture is.
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