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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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| Beta6 wrote: | Be an adult and admit when I am wrong? I did not read that post. So how can I be wrong about something I did not even answer to? I had told you that before. Maybe I would leave out my comments if you could leave yours out as well... talking about my eduication? Sorry, I don't brown nose... If i feel disrespected, that person will feel the same. Just the way the world works.  |
If you won't read the post, then you shouldn't make the uninformed comment you did about one thousand troops. And when presented with evidence to the contrary, you should have read it. That's part of how it works here in WN. Topics may be debated til the world ends, but you will listen to each other. I know I've said that before.
And I didn't mention your specific education. I said education criteria in California. It's not my fault you stopped reading when you saw a number you thought supported you, and made a totally incorrect statement. Don't pass the buck, k?
And no one said brown nose. They said obey the rules of STV, and especially the rules of WN. Your "feeling of disrespect" was all in your mind. Something I'm now aware will happen a lot as you made it clear you do not bother to read posts that are contrary to what you want to think is the truth.
Welcome to the real world.
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Beta6
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:41 am |
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omg, Girl.. seriously, I missed your post. Don't trip out because I didn't notice it was there. And about the education, you were "debating" with me, and well.. Obviously I'm from ca... so hmm.. I wonder who you were speaking to... But I will surrender, I can care less.. I know how much you need to be right and get the last word in.
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Theresa
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:47 am |
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Perhaps you need to recheck the rules here?
And you didn't miss my post. Please, don't lie. You used part of it in your own post. You simply stopped reading when you felt you could support your stance.
And clearly I know you are from California. At the time the education criteria statement was made, I was unaware that you hadn't bothered to read the entire article. Bad of me to assume you would, I suppose.
But, be warned. If you want to continue to post in WN, you will read what others post, and not just spout untruths because you want them to be true. Such as your 1000 soldier comment, and then later recant. Do a little research. My God, you are on the information super highway... It's not like I'm asking you to move.
I wish I could say this surprised me.
Be mature, or don't post. And deal with being proven wrong, or don't post. That simple.
Here's the rule for you, so you don't have to look for it.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:19 pm |
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Theresa's right. How can you skim through important topics such as this IN A WN DEBATE!? Read fully, and then make INFORMED opinions. Theresa's blind? I thought YOU were the one who didn't read the stats
But I digress. Let us get back on topic. Fixing America.
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borgslayer
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I say to help lower crime the police present in all cities should be increased by 70%. Which means more cops on the streets.
Since the western U.S. is a hot place to live in. The Automakers should make gas/solar powered cars. Cars that can run on both gas and solar.
And if possible I would also like too see a wind powered car. So a wind power car would never run of power so it can keep running forever.
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:59 pm |
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| borgslayer wrote: | I say to help lower crime the police present in all cities should be increased by 70%. Which means more cops on the streets.
Since the western U.S. is a hot place to live in. The Automakers should make gas/solar powered cars. Cars that can run on both gas and solar.
And if possible I would also like too see a wind powered car. So a wind power car would never run of power so it can keep running forever. |
Sadly, the maximum amount of sunlight (high noon in the desert at the equator) only equals about 1 kilowatt per square meter. And it takes about 25 kilowatts (bare minimum) to power a car which can carry 4 people at 100km per hour. So, solar powered cars are not practical. It's sad that so many people want to make clean energy happen, but so few ever learn basic physics. Those that don't waste their time on wishes that will never happen.
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Seven of Nine
Sammie's Mammy
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:31 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
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This section illustrates the Corporate World's big lie about advancement:
| Quote: | To illustrate, as of November 2004, a barrel of oil costs about $45. The amount of energy contained in that barrel of oil would cost between $100-$250* dollars to derive from alternative sources of energy. Thus, energy companies won't begin aggressively pursuing alternative sources of energy until oil reaches the $100-$250 mark.
*This does not even account for the amount of money it would take to locate and refine the raw materials necessary for a large scale conversion, the construction and deployment of the alternatives, and finally the retrofitting of the world's $45 trillion dollar infrastructure to run on these alternative sources.
Once they do begin aggressively pursuing these alternatives, there will be a 25-to-50 year lag time between the initial heavy-duty research into these alternatives and their wide-scale industrial implementation. |
As an example: When CFC-based chemicals were finally banned for use in the circuit-board industry, it took less than 1 week for DuPont to "suddenly" release a water-and-citrus-based alternative which was faster, cheaper, easier to clean up and re-use, and lowered the user's EPA liability. The truth was that DuPont had the stuff ready to go over ten years before the ban was put in place. There are plenty of energy alternatives which can compete with $150/bbl oil. And when oil hits $145 you'll see them spring out of the woodwork like roaches, because it's already been invented and developed - it's just gathering dust in the bowels of the big corporations because it can't compete with $50/bbl oil! These guys are evil, moneygrubbing and perniciously self-centered - but they're NOT STUPID.
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Seven of Nine
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:36 pm |
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I really hope you're right, because everywhere I look I'm finding it hard to find things that disprove what that page says.
If what it says is true (and again, I'm finding it hard to find proof it isn't) then I don't think we'll be living this way in even ten years time.
Can you help me with my search?
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:42 pm |
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Ooops! I should have read on:
| Quote: | | On a related note, even if solar, wind, and other green alternatives could replace oil, we still wouldn't escape the evil clutches of so called "Big Oil." The biggest maker of solar panels is British Petroleum while the second biggest maker of wind turbines is General Electric, who obtained their wind turbine business from that stalwart of corporate social responsibility, Enron.As these two examples illustrate, the notion that "Big Oil is scared of the immerging renewable energy market!" is silly. "Big Oil" already owns the renewable energy market. |
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:49 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | I really hope you're right, because everywhere I look I'm finding it hard to find things that disprove what that page says.
If what it says is true (and again, I'm finding it hard to find proof it isn't) then I don't think we'll be living this way in even ten years time.
Can you help me with my search? |
The fat cats don't want a "crash" any more than we do. So (as usual, if you know your history) they will create a barely-managed "crisis" instead. Things will change, except that we will keep getting the short end of the stick.
Check out:
For Industry:
Focus fusion (read about tokamak fusion and road to ITER, then compare to this).
Pebble-bed nuclear reactors (China plans to build hundreds!).
For people:
Total conversion of sunlight (we're not quite there, but close).
Ethanol fuel cells (and why the "Hydrogen Economy" is a HUGE LIE).
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Jemah
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:49 pm |
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how would i fix the united states? hahaha.. get bush the hell out of office and change the culture to be more accepting and less in denial.
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Theresa
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:53 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | how would i fix the united states? hahaha.. get bush the hell out of office and change the culture to be more accepting and less in denial. |
That doesn't even make any sense. "More accepting". We aren't a nation of one race, religion or culture.
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Jemah
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:57 pm |
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the united states was built out of corpses of native americans and on the backs of slaves. every time a new group of people immigrate to the united states, they are singled out and hated on. what about homosexuals or arabs? i've heard many people referring to islamic people as terrorists or of arabic people as "sand *beep*" or "towelheads" white males are the ruling race. cristian beliefs are forced on everyone. all other religions are called incorrect in the face of christianity in the united states. how is that accepting? o_O
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Theresa
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:59 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | the united states was built out of corpses of native americans and on the backs of slaves. every time a new group of people immigrate to the united states, they are singled out and hated on. what about homosexuals or arabs? i've heard many people referring to islamic people as terrorists or of arabic people as "sand *beep*" or "towelheads" white males are the ruling race. how is that accepting? o_O |
And there is so much peace in the middle east,  Social problems within a country aren't the same as international relations. But we can go there if you want. Just don't go forgetting the history of the middle east.
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Jemah
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:01 pm |
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not at all! i wouldn't forget.  and the unrest in the middle east has been hightened by the united states. i won't forget that either.
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Founder
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:04 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | the united states was built out of corpses of native americans and on the backs of slaves. every time a new group of people immigrate to the united states, they are singled out and hated on. what about homosexuals or arabs? i've heard many people referring to islamic people as terrorists or of arabic people as "sand *beep*" or "towelheads" white males are the ruling race. cristian beliefs are forced on everyone. all other religions are called incorrect in the face of christianity in the united states. how is that accepting? o_O |
What the hell time period do you live in? 200 years ago? There are no slaves here now. We don't kill Native Americans now. Christian beliefs are not the only way.
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:08 pm |
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And if the US is such a terrible place, why do SO MANY PEOPLE leave their "home country" and come here to "improve their lives"?
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Theresa
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:09 pm |
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^A comment which includes Jemah...
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Beta6
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:09 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | Jemah wrote: | | the united states was built out of corpses of native americans and on the backs of slaves. every time a new group of people immigrate to the united states, they are singled out and hated on. what about homosexuals or arabs? i've heard many people referring to islamic people as terrorists or of arabic people as "sand *beep*" or "towelheads" white males are the ruling race. cristian beliefs are forced on everyone. all other religions are called incorrect in the face of christianity in the united states. how is that accepting? o_O |
What the hell time period do you live in? 200 years ago? There are no slaves here now. We don't kill Native Americans now. Christian beliefs are not the only way. |
I'm sure he was not talking about "now"... he was speaking probably in general.
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Theresa
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:10 pm |
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Another redundant statement: Users don't need interpreters.
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webtaz99
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:11 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
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I couldn't help but notice the order of the links on the menu:
Introduction
Store
Links
Letters
Articles
Forum
About Me
Breaking News
(things that make you go - hmmmmm)
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:11 pm |
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Well then that makes no sense. "Oh America used to be evil!" Ok...we have a bad history. What was the point of syaing that?
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Beta6
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:11 pm |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | And if the US is such a terrible place, why do SO MANY PEOPLE leave their "home country" and come here to "improve their lives"? |
US isn't a terrible place, I don't recall anyone saying so. I'm sure you know why people leave their home countries to improve their lives here. He was stating that bush needs to go... that is his opinion... so be it.
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Beta6
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:12 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Another redundant statement: Users don't need interpreters. |
If they didnt need interpreters, they wouldn't have asked those questions. 
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