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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:03 pm Have you ever noticed... |
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Reading through some of these topics, the pessimists and the optimists are clearly defined through party. Is this just something that is glaringly obvious at a time like this, or has it always been this way?
I mean, look at the Democrats statements, then compare them to the Republicans. You can clearly see who shows optimism, and who does not.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:12 pm |
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I think it's a political power thing. When the Republicans are in power, the Democrats attempt to cast a negative spin on the outcome of Republican decisions, and vice versa.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:14 pm |
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Yeah, I just thought it was amusing that we had 14 year olds here just spouting propaganda and not even trying to think for themselves. I think that's why I dislike partisan ideals so much. I don't choose a party until I have to, I generally go independent, because, goodness, I want to think for myself.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:16 pm |
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Theresa wrote: | Yeah, I just thought it was amusing that we had 14 year olds here just spouting propaganda and not even trying to think for themselves. I think that's why I dislike partisan ideals so much. I don't choose a party until I have to, I generally go independent, because, goodness, I want to think for myself. |
Well, I think for myself, so I hope you don't think that all Republicans and all Democrats don't think for themselves but yes, I see that it is sometimes the powers-that-be that are optimistic, but it is commonly the Republicans that are, even during a Democratic administration.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:25 am |
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We do think for ourselves. Political parties are merely a way to define where you stand and what to call you. Although there are people on both sides who take it too far.
I agree that it is a victory thing. Thats how the optimisim/pessimism is decided.
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Jeremy J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 7823 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:11 am |
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I'm independent as I want to decide my own opinioons. I find people that blindly follow a party's line a bit, well, silly, although thats not the best word for it. I also do the same as T in not being for one party, although I haeven't had to vote yet as I'm not old enough. I think I might just miss out on the election later this year here by a few months, although I have almost certainly decided who I'd vote for if it is delayed.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:45 am |
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I didn't say all Dems and Repubs, I'm registered as a Republican because they wouldn't let me vote Indie. Anyway, I do know several people who only think what the party tells them to.
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Jeremy J's Guy
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:36 pm |
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Yes, and believe they don't,
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:27 pm |
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I do see that around here a lot. You can tell a person's party here just by how they post.
Personally, I'm a registered Democrat. But I hate listening to all the BS both parties try to throw at each other. Trying to filter everything out to make an informed opinion is getting harder and harder to do these days. Then you have the people who blindly follow their party like lost puppies.
I believe that it's best to look at all information before opening your mouth.
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Defining yourself by your political party is just sad, in my opinion. I'm only pessimistic because I've had a lot of problems that have made me that way. I intensely dislike being labeled a left-wing liberal, because I just hate labels! We are individuals, and those who don't appreciate that are normally the ones branding labels.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Saw some pretty sick examples of this.
We all know how I feel about the Schiavo case. I'd be talking about it with people, and they'd all be on her side. Then they'd hear that Jeb Bush was trying to find a way to save her again. "Isn't he a Repbulican? Oh, then I'm for her dying." That's just daaaaaamn sick.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Theresa wrote: | Saw some pretty sick examples of this.
We all know how I feel about the Schiavo case. I'd be talking about it with people, and they'd all be on her side. Then they'd hear that Jeb Bush was trying to find a way to save her again. "Isn't he a Repbulican? Oh, then I'm for her dying." That's just daaaaaamn sick. |
Well said. I agree with that. I really do NOT make such judgements about the Democrats. I really hear their ideas, and make judgements on that.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:12 pm Re: Have you ever noticed... |
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Theresa wrote: | Reading through some of these topics, the pessimists and the optimists are clearly defined through party. Is this just something that is glaringly obvious at a time like this, or has it always been this way?
I mean, look at the Democrats statements, then compare them to the Republicans. You can clearly see who shows optimism, and who does not. |
So what am i then? I can be optimistic and pessimistic at the same time .
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Jemah Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:44 pm |
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well, optimism could also in this case be called by one who is of a more liberal mindset, ignorance. xD also, republicans are not more optimistic. they're always worrying about other countries and spreading paranoia and propaganda. fear governs the conservative's mind. fear of anything that isn't "all-american" - piggish, stupid, and wastful or what is condemned by the bible. so anyway, i think that both are a bit pessimistic - when conservatives are bitching about other countries and liberals who are bitching about the united states.
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