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Zeke Zabertini
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After a pause that seems to drag on for days, Zeke speaks. "I move that we proceed to a vote on the bill in question," he says, still neglecting, perhaps deliberately, to use the proper term.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:32 pm |
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"No, we must allow for an opponent speech. Is there an opponent speech on the floor? If not, I will speak."
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:46 am |
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Zeke smiles. "The opposition speech we already had wasn't oppositional enough for you, I take it. Alright, I'll buy that. Pray, proceed though. I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate."
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lionhead
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:50 am |
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"Thats just because i don't have a clue on how too know that i'm not out of order when i speak."
*Says congressman ebbeling after waking up.*
OOC: Just pointing uot that the rules are way to strict for a forum, it is suppose too be fun and honest...or is it?
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:35 am |
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Zeke looks amused. "Perhaps if the congressman would pay more attention to the proceedings..."
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:35 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | Zeke smiles. "The opposition speech we already had wasn't oppositional enough for you, I take it. Alright, I'll buy that. Pray, proceed though. I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate." |
"Congressman, have you not read the rules, or do you not understand them? After the first two speeches occur with questioning, we have a CX round. After that, we have motions move to another round of debate. This could start with a proponent speech. If there is no proponent speech, then we move to an opponent speech. If there is no opponent speech, we move straight to motions. This is not an issue of me not liking the opposition or what have you. If we do have an opponent speech, then an opponent gives a speech. Do you understand this now?"
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:35 pm |
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Zeke yawns. "I understood in the first place. If you wanted to give a speech, why didn't you do so already? Obviously there's no one else speaking for, against, or otherwise. Step forward Sir. Give your speech, take your questions, and let's move on."
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:39 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | Zeke yawns. "I understood in the first place. If you wanted to give a speech, why didn't you do so already? Obviously there's no one else speaking for, against, or otherwise. Step forward Sir. Give your speech, take your questions, and let's move on." |
"You did not understand in the first place. That is apparent. And I will give my speech in just a moment..."
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:55 pm |
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Zeke chuckles, speaking inaudibly. "Of course, you're always right. How could I forget?"
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:58 pm |
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((When I come back on tonight I'll give the speech))
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:06 am |
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Zeke clears his throat after a pause of several minutes. "Begging your pardon Mister Speaker, but would you mind doing this sometime yet today?"
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:57 pm |
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((I apologize...haven't been able to do this yet, and when I could, I was lazy   ...))
"This bill cannot be approved. We cannot allow it, for a few key reasons. First of all, the damage to our economy would overwhelm the improvement. Because there is such little enforcement of immigration laws already, there is no way to securely enforce the business side of things. This bill does not address enforcement, which it should, because if the laws are not enforced, then there is no way to ensure Sections 1, 2, and 4. When employers can pay less to a certain group than another, they will shoot for the lower-"priced" group. This would cause more layoffs and beyond. Not only that, but since this legislation fails to address the employment of illegal immigrants, it only enables illegals to obtain jobs. With illegal immigration on the rise--especially after President Bush's proposal--this would only worsen things. Plus, the economic impact on employment in particular and the inability to enforce the law is a major problem. The laws that we have in place now are not enforced, and there is no clear way to enforce this one. I yield my time to 3 questions, then we will move on."
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:28 pm |
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Zeke stands. "Will you yield to a question, Sir?"
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:08 pm |
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"Of course, Congressman," he smiled.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:15 pm |
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Zeke nods. "As I'm sure you're aware, Sir, there's legislation already pending in the Congress to address border security issues. Do you feel that it is necessary to attach redundant protocols onto this bill?"
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:28 pm |
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| Zeke Zabertini wrote: | | Zeke nods. "As I'm sure you're aware, Sir, there's legislation already pending in the Congress to address border security issues. Do you feel that it is necessary to attach redundant protocols onto this bill?" |
"I understand that there is a difference between border security and this program, but there are ties that tie them together. If the border's aren't protected and there's no real prevention method for stopping illegal immigrants from getting into the program, then that's a security issue. Also, if there's no way to enforce the bill, then it cannot go into motion. Prior to the passing of this bill an enforcement method should present itself. Without one, then this bill cannot be enforced, hence hurting our economy, etc. You may ask one more question if you'd like, and then someone else may ask. I am on a 3-question limit right now."
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:42 pm |
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Zeke shakes his head, sitting back down. "No Mister Speaker, that will do. I'm inclined to agree with you, if not for the same reasons."
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:09 pm |
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"Seeing as there are no further questions and this topic is not a bustle, we will skip CX and move to motions. Are there any motions on the floor?"
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:14 pm |
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Zeke raises his hand to indicate he is speaking, but doesn't bother standing. "I move to proceed to a vote on the legislation."
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:04 pm |
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"Motion to move to previous question? I second that motion. Now, please, let's proceed to have a voice vote on the legislation. I vote Aye."
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:55 am |
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Zeke nods. "Aye."
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:16 am |
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"Aye, and about time."
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lionhead
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:01 pm |
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*Pops out of hybernation*
"wow, this congress is really busy isn't it?"
*Loos at all the skeletons in the chairs with Dust on the desks and spiderwebs everywhere and hears the word "Aye" echoing around.*
"Ahum, aye."
*Falls to sleep on his chair again*
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LightningBoy
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:06 pm |
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Congressman Moritz votes nay after careful consideration.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:07 pm |
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"Congressman Moritz, could you please explain why you disprove of having a vote on this legislation?"
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