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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:30 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | How young? I am a minor, and I think that if you are ages 14 and up (maybe even 13) you know right from wrong and should get the death penalty as well. But I love how youth can have abortions without letting their parents know but not get the death penalty |
Voting age. If youths as young as 14 are considered responsible to know the difference between right and wrong, they should also be allowed to vote.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:30 pm |
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Jemah wrote: | killing anyone is wrong even if it's with the death penalty. killing children even with the death penalty is extremely wrong. |
How is killing a 14 year old wrong? I'm a minor. If they know that what they are doing is wrong (which they DO, and don't tell me they don't) then they should get the rightful punishment! And again, I love how youth can have abortions without letting their parents know but not get the death penalty
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Beta6 Commander
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 475 Location: ~*City Of Angels*~
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:32 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Jemah wrote: | killing anyone is wrong even if it's with the death penalty. killing children even with the death penalty is extremely wrong. |
How is killing a 14 year old wrong? I'm a minor. If they know that what they are doing is wrong (which they DO, and don't tell me they don't) then they should get the rightful punishment! And again, I love how youth can have abortions without letting their parents know but not get the death penalty |
Oh god, You aren't being serious are you?
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Jemah Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:37 pm |
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R_M, i say you should get the death penalty!
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Beta6 Commander
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 475 Location: ~*City Of Angels*~
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:42 pm |
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Jemah wrote: | R_M, i say you should get the death penalty! |
OWCH! That was kinda cruel jemah.... ... no??
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:23 pm |
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Beta6 wrote: | Republican_Man wrote: | Jemah wrote: | killing anyone is wrong even if it's with the death penalty. killing children even with the death penalty is extremely wrong. |
How is killing a 14 year old wrong? I'm a minor. If they know that what they are doing is wrong (which they DO, and don't tell me they don't) then they should get the rightful punishment! And again, I love how youth can have abortions without letting their parents know but not get the death penalty |
Oh god, You aren't being serious are you? |
No, I mean it. I am dead serious. Again, I am between age 13 and 18, and this is my belief.
And yes, Jemah, even if you are joking, please do NOT say something like that to ANYONE, ESPECIALLY me.
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voy416 Captain
Joined: 28 Oct 2001 Posts: 631 Location: Rock Bottom
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:19 pm |
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I think it should be over 18 at least at 18 you are legal to go to jail and you should have commonsense on what you are doing.
The Death penalty is bad but what should the world do to people who are as i say crazy to kill people or rape people sure you can lock them up until they are old and gray but hell sometimes the crazy people do get off easy
that is my opinion and i leave it at that
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snowcat Freshman Cadet
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 6 Location: Lowlands
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:45 pm |
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I only skimmed the posts before mine, but wanted to put in a few pennies here:
I am aginst the death penalty.
Mostly the matter of the death penalty is a matter of ideals. One is either for or against because of one's personal idea about what justice is.
I think no one is entitled to take someone else's life, especially not the state. This rule can, in my opinion, not be broken because some low-life decided to take someone else's life. If the state thinks it can be the one exception to that rule because it is the state and because the criminal being punished truly deserves it, you break that very elemental rule.
Not to mention indeed, the faults people make, wether they are good or bad lawyers, or wether theres dna proof available or not, or wether witnesses remember things screwed up (memory is often screwed up!) and that no state should, in my opinion, be willing to make even ONE mistake where a human life is concerned. After all, I want a society that measures itself by its ideals, not by the practices of its criminals.
And yes, to be imprisoned for the rest of your life is, I think, more cruel. If someone murders a person, I dont want them to get the painless, easy, fast death(in most cases not the kind of death they gave their victims), I want them to think about what they did for the rest of their miserable lives!
And invariably, the issue about money then comes up "But it is expensive to spend our tax dollars on the clothing and food of these low-lives" Yes, it is. What are you saying, that ideals should be cheap otherwise they aren't worth pursuing?
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:28 pm |
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No. I'm saying my tax dollars are better spent on people who are not proven low-lifes.
I wonder how many people who oppose the death penalty would be willing to register with the government, so that only they support life in prison with their taxes?
Also, anti-death-penalty folks "always" bring up the innocenet man. The state's ability to come to a correct and just conviction is a totally separate issue from whether the state uses capital punishment. Is an accurate justice system any less important when things like child custody are involved?
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:02 am |
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webtaz99 wrote: | No. I'm saying my tax dollars are better spent on people who are not proven low-lifes.
I wonder how many people who oppose the death penalty would be willing to register with the government, so that only they support life in prison with their taxes?
Also, anti-death-penalty folks "always" bring up the innocenet man. The state's ability to come to a correct and just conviction is a totally separate issue from whether the state uses capital punishment. Is an accurate justice system any less important when things like child custody are involved? |
The "innocent man" shares a direct relation to capital punishment, so I really don't see what there is to bitch about. Of course, if some people don't mind a few innocent deaths from an already backwards system, that's fine I suppose .
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Beta6 Commander
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 475 Location: ~*City Of Angels*~
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Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:07 pm |
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webtaz99 wrote: | No. I'm saying my tax dollars are better spent on people who are not proven low-lifes.
I wonder how many people who oppose the death penalty would be willing to register with the government, so that only they support life in prison with their taxes?
Also, anti-death-penalty folks "always" bring up the innocenet man. The state's ability to come to a correct and just conviction is a totally separate issue from whether the state uses capital punishment. Is an accurate justice system any less important when things like child custody are involved? |
I am willing to pay my taxes and know they are going to keep people locked up for life. I don't care at all... I'm actually happy my money is being put to good use by protecting us. Or keeping the bad guys away... I have heard of tax dollars to be used on far worse, So I don't mind at all
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Jemah Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209
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Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:13 pm |
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Beta6 wrote: | webtaz99 wrote: | No. I'm saying my tax dollars are better spent on people who are not proven low-lifes.
I wonder how many people who oppose the death penalty would be willing to register with the government, so that only they support life in prison with their taxes?
Also, anti-death-penalty folks "always" bring up the innocenet man. The state's ability to come to a correct and just conviction is a totally separate issue from whether the state uses capital punishment. Is an accurate justice system any less important when things like child custody are involved? |
I am willing to pay my taxes and know they are going to keep people locked up for life. I don't care at all... I'm actually happy my money is being put to good use by protecting us. Or keeping the bad guys away... I have heard of tax dollars to be used on far worse, So I don't mind at all |
yeah like funding pointless wars. xD
keep them in prison. there's no need to fund state murder.
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Beta6 Commander
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 475 Location: ~*City Of Angels*~
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Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:36 pm |
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Jemah wrote: | Beta6 wrote: | webtaz99 wrote: | No. I'm saying my tax dollars are better spent on people who are not proven low-lifes.
I wonder how many people who oppose the death penalty would be willing to register with the government, so that only they support life in prison with their taxes?
Also, anti-death-penalty folks "always" bring up the innocenet man. The state's ability to come to a correct and just conviction is a totally separate issue from whether the state uses capital punishment. Is an accurate justice system any less important when things like child custody are involved? |
I am willing to pay my taxes and know they are going to keep people locked up for life. I don't care at all... I'm actually happy my money is being put to good use by protecting us. Or keeping the bad guys away... I have heard of tax dollars to be used on far worse, So I don't mind at all |
yeah like funding pointless wars. xD
keep them in prison. there's no need to fund state murder. |
LOL EXACTLY!
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