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Republican_Man
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| Jemah wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | Jemah wrote: | human presence and drilling oil will still *beep* things up.  |
There is already a lot of human presence!!! And remember, it's only 2000 of 19 million acres of the land! It won't do much. And why use an " " there? |
yeah but the people aren't drilling |
2000 acres, I say again, out of 19 million. And there is almost no life in that area (the area that they want to drill in.) I don't see why we have to be so dependent on foreign oil, at the mercy of Saudi Arabia, etc. 
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:37 pm |
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what are you, secretary of state? :p
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:39 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | what are you, secretary of state? :p |
Stop doing the " ", it's annoying! Seriously, why do you keep making these irrelivent comments, and why that comment? Secretary of State? What? So I have to be Secretary of State, now, to say the truth and push my view, hmmm?
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:41 pm |
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come on R_M! you are secretary of state! just admit it already.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:49 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | come on R_M! you are secretary of state! just admit it already. |
You are not Jemah. No way. Why are you taking his identity?
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:51 pm |
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i am! jemah al-zeid. 
i'm having a good day!
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:51 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | i am! jemah al-zeid.
i'm having a good day! |
Alright, well that's interesting...you aren't sounding like yourself. You shall have NO MORE GOOD DAYS!
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LightningBoy
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:53 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | human presence and drilling oil will still *beep* things up. |
How so, and who cares?
Again, the little wildlife up there isn't going to look out for our interests. If this were in a rainforest or something, that can have worldwide implications, then i'd be open to arguments, but this is lowsy insignificant land.
Either we can use it, or let it sit and waste it.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:56 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | | Jemah wrote: | | human presence and drilling oil will still *beep* things up. |
How so, and who cares?
Again, the little wildlife up there isn't going to look out for our interests. If this were in a rainforest or something, that can have woprldwide implications, then i'd be open to arguments, but this is lowsy insignificant land.
Either we can use it, or let is sit and waste it. |
You are sounding extreme. You should always excentuate the fact that it's only 2000 acres out of 19 million!
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:11 pm |
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you dont care about baby penguins and seals? 
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:12 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | you dont care about baby penguins and seals? |
Again, 2000 acres out of 19 million! Somehow I doubt many "baby penguins and seals" will be affected
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:15 pm |
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the baby penguins and seals have a habitat there.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:19 pm |
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| Jemah wrote: | | the baby penguins and seals have a habitat there. |
Not in those 2000 acres. And so what if they do? It's only 2000 acres, and it will bring great benefit to the US.
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:20 pm |
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yeah and i bet you want to enslave the baby penguins and seals! 
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Arellia
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:40 pm |
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I would be one of the first to protect the 'baby penguins and seals.' But really, as RM mentioned, 2000 acres isn't much in the grand scheme. Few animals would likely be affected, they'd just have to alter course if they travel through/live there. And anyway, baby seals have a high mortality rate to begin with (Not like I promote killing them, buuuuuut...) a lot of weaker animals that couldn't adapt would probably die anyway. Opinion, opinion.
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Jeremy
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:54 pm |
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THERE IS NO PENGUINS!
Also remember that 2000 acres may be used for drilling, but many more will be used for access roads. Do people not read my posts? 
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:28 pm |
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| Exalya wrote: | | I would be one of the first to protect the 'baby penguins and seals.' But really, as RM mentioned, 2000 acres isn't much in the grand scheme. Few animals would likely be affected, they'd just have to alter course if they travel through/live there. And anyway, baby seals have a high mortality rate to begin with (Not like I promote killing them, buuuuuut...) a lot of weaker animals that couldn't adapt would probably die anyway. Opinion, opinion. |
Yes, that is true. However, I would be willing to give up a few animals for this. Keep it in perspective--we could get 1 million barrels a day--ALMOST AS MUCH AS FROM SAUDI ARABIA--and 30 billion over 30 years! (I misposted one of my posts about that) AND the area is the equivalent of a newspaper on a Tennis court. That's it.
Jeremy, you raise a good point there, but it's not as much as you think that it would require. And the government assures that they will do what they can to keep the disruption low.
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LightningBoy
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Why do we care so much about this "ecosystem"?!?!
It's an ecosystem of virtally nothing!! It's insignificant, it's tundra! There's nothing growing there that benefits us, so why not use it for its oil!
Again, humans need to look out for humans, do you think the few animals out there would give a rats tail about you? I really don't get it... Someone, please answer this question: How does it benefit us to NOT drill there?
By the way, how is it extreme to see that there is no benefit to one side of the argument.
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Jemah
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:33 pm |
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because i have love for the earth and would like for it's beauty to remain intact. i wouldn't want it thrown away for mere oil.
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LightningBoy
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| Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:46 pm |
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How is tundra beautiful? I don't see a benefit for us there. So you think a sheet of sheer ice is better than the beauty of seeing your heating bill cut in half?
Come on, lets be practical please. It's tundra, it's nothing special. Plus, it's 19 acres of undeveloped nothing, there are millions of acres of undeveloped nothing in this world, 19 of them won't be missed.
Just one more thing, tho make this clear...
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:18 am |
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2000 acres isn't much! I mean, we can get almost as much oil there EACH DAY as from Saudi Arabia, AND more than ALL of Texas! And that's just 2000 acres!
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Jemah
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| Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:38 pm |
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yeah well i still don't know why you want to condemn those poor innocent bystanders, the baby penguins and seals. awwwww.
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LightningBoy
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| Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:55 pm |
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Condemn them to what? A slightly inconveinient relocation?
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Jeremy
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| Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:05 pm |
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No penguins... 
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LightningBoy
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| Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:07 pm |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | No penguins... |
"It's gettin' eaten by Linux... or something..."
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