The United Empire of America?

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

yes. that's precicely what i'm suggesting. you're just feeding into what a terrorist would want. your reaction is what they strive for. and for a religious person, i would think that peace would be the first option. isn't the bible correctly quoted in saying "turn the other cheek"?

and founder, you seek destruction and death obviously. i will talk with you.

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:28 pm**

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

why can't you forgive the past ills of the people who committed that atrocity? and to suggest turning away would realistically, i know, a non-option. but to target a country with no affiliation with 9/11 under a scarce suspicion is ludacris.

you are an obvious warhawk.

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:31 pm**

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

yes. why not? and i'm quite well. it's nice to know that someone is solicitous of my well being. i thank you graciously.

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:33 pm**

Why not? I won't dignify such stupidity with an answer.

Republican_Man · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:33 pm**

Jemah, you are just ENTIRELY ridiculous. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever. NOT respond! You are RIDICULOUS! THAT, sir, is what they REALLY want.

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

if you don't have the spirit of peace, then life for you will no doubt be a treacherous one.

you can forgive without forgetting.

Republican_Man · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:44 pm**

Hitchhiker · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:44 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:50 pm**

Link, the Hero of Time · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:41 pm**

It sounds like it from you're arguments.

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:11 pm**

Unbelievable. There are people who are actually defending the terrorists. Wow. Who knew that the people here would fall so low.

Arellia · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:13 pm**

Forgiving...someone for killing 3,000 people, just because they hate them? Um...no. It's not revenge. It's trying to keep something like 9/11 from happening again. So, we should let them go? Oh, yes...come kill us, we'll forgive you. Nuclear bomb in San Francisco? Oh, sure! Take New York and Washington, too!

/rampant sarcasm\

Hitchhiker · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:00 pm**

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:16 pm**

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

well, realistically, as a nation, retaliate like what was done. but if it were to be done all over, i'd stick with retaliating against the correct person instead of waging an unjust war with a country that had nothing to do with anything except false weapons of mass destruction. as individuals, i think that instead of breeding hatred, forgive and breed peace and hopefully in the future, terrorists won't have any reason to exist.

Hitchhiker · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:30 pm**

Ach, I hate that type of question because honestly I cannot think of an effective alternative to military action, simply because most terrorist leaders cannot be reconciled with diplomatic overtures.

In some cases, I must admit that I could approve of Canada engaging in military action, I wouldn't like it though. Simply put, I don't think the ends justify the means.

I dislike the connotation 'War on Terror,' it's a misnomer because wars can be won. Wars are short affairs fought amongst nations. The 'War on Terror' can never be one. Al-Qaeda can be dispersed, bin Laden caught, but there will always be more terrorists to take their places. Now, this does not mean that we should all go home and watch Bugs Bunny cartoons, as much as Warner Bros. would prefer. It simply means that if the 'War on Terror' continues on at its present rate, people are going to start getting dissatisfied. People don't like long wars, they like short ones with overwhelming victories for their country.

I disapprove of the Coalition's unilateral invasion of Iraq. The fact they overthrew an autocracy and are working to establish a democracy is beside the point, that is not the original reason the U.S. went there. And even though evidence may have been found that Iraq once had weapons of mass destruction prior to the invasion, I have not seen enough evidence to justify the invasion in my eyes.

I certainly don't see a "United Empire of America" in the future at any time, no. As much as I disagree with the decision to invade Iraq, I don't think the U.S. is about to go in and start annexing more countries. For one thing, the people would not be happy. Military operations in Iraq are taking significant resources--the U.S. is running a trillion dollar deficit--and further invasions of countries might not be good for the domestic economy.

I can see why people agree with the invasion of Iraq, and I'm glad that Iraq is trying to set up a democracy, however the reasons they put forth for their beliefs are not enough to convince me, as arguments usually go.

Jemah · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 209

hitchhiker, utterly and completely well spoken.

webtaz99 · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:53 pm**

The "War on Terrror" can be won, by making it impossible for terrorist activities to be carried out. Any war is won either by ending one side's ability to fight, or removing one side's will to fight.

Developing technologies will make it difficult for terrorist groups to secretly communicate, possess or carry weapons, or create bio- and chemical weapons without being detected. By making it harder (even impossible) to carry out attacks, their will to try will be undermined.

Hitchhiker · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:57 pm**

Founder · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:00 pm**

webtaz99 · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:04 pm**

Hitchhiker · **Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:04 pm**

Okay.