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Beta6
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| Quote: | WASHINGTON - New intelligence indicates that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) is enlisting Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, his top operative in Iraq (news - web sites), to plan potential attacks on the United States, federal officials said Monday.
Al-Zarqawi has been involved in attacks in the Middle East. He has not been known to have set his sights on America.
The Homeland Security Department issued a classified bulletin to officials over the weekend about the intelligence, which spokesman Brian Roehrkasse described as "credible but not specific." The intelligence was obtained over the past several weeks, the officials said.
The government has no immediate plans to raise its national terror alert level, Roehrkasse said. But, he said, the intelligence "reiterates the desire by al-Qaida and its associates to target the homeland."
Bin Laden was in contact with al-Zarqawi within the past two months in an effort to enlist him in attacks, said an official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. U.S. analysts believe this shows the al-Qaida leadership needs to reach out to al-Zarqawi to get him involved in considering such activities outside Iraq, the official said.
Al-Zarqawi, who is blamed for scores of attacks in Iraq, pledged allegiance to bin Laden and the al-Qaida network last year. Yet he has had differences with bin Laden, and his efforts are considered somewhat distinct from central al-Qaida operations.
A Bush administration official with access to the Homeland Security Department's bulletin said the intelligence indicates that al-Qaida has continued to encourage al-Zarqawi, who was born in Jordan, to get involved in terrorist actions against Americans outside Iraq, including in the United States.
"The intelligence continues to be analyzed by the intelligence community and all appropriate information will be passed on to homeland security partners," Roehrkasse said. "The department has no plans at this time to raise the threat level based on this nonspecific information."
The agency sent the bulletin to state homeland security directors. A Justice Department (news - web sites) official said the FBI (news - web sites) was not involved and that the information that led to the bulletin was gleaned by CIA (news - web sites) intelligence.
In the United States, al-Zarqawi rivals bin Laden as public enemy No. 1. He has a $25 million U.S. bounty on his head and is believed to have orchestrated car bombings, kidnappings, assassinations and beheadings in Iraq.
Al-Zarqawi has run an increasingly dangerous, but diffuse, network of operatives in Iraq known by a number of names. He is blamed largely for attacks in the Middle East, including numerous attacks in Iraq and foiled plots targeting U.S. and Israeli targets in Jordan at the millennium.
In October, he made a first-ever pledge of loyalty to bin Laden, by posting a message on a Web site known for carrying militant Islamic content. At the time, U.S. officials believed al-Zarqawi was hoping to appeal to a larger audience and adopt bin Laden's broad objective to attack the United States.
Bin Laden, who is believed to be hiding on the rugged border between Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Pakistan, is thought to communicate with his deputies by courier, taped messages and other means. In January 2004, Kurdish forces in northern Iraq detained one courier, Hassan Ghul, who was carrying a letter written by al-Zarqawi to bin Laden. In it, al-Zarqawi proposed starting a civil war between Iraq's Sunni and Shiite Muslim populations.
Last year, the Jordanian government stopped a Zarqawi-linked plan to use chemicals and explosives to blow up Jordan's secret service agency, the prime minister's office and the U.S. Embassy.
The Jordanians are also after al-Zarqawi, who was convicted last year for assassinating U.S. aid worker Laurence Foley in Amman in 2002. The Jordanians have issued a death sentence for al-Zarqawi.
At a Senate hearing this month, CIA Director Porter Goss warned that al-Zarqawi has "sought to bring about the final victory of Islam over the West." Goss said al-Zarqawi hopes to establish a safe haven in Iraq from which his group could operate against "'infidel' Western nations and 'apostate' Muslim governments." |
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:05 pm |
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In quotes, and please state the source, 
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| Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:54 pm |
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:35 am |
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Not surprised at all. Evil, twisted people...
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| Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:02 pm |
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Just let him watch "24". Then he'll think twice  . No one messes with Jack Bauer!
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Borg771
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:57 pm |
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do you really expect people to believe that bs? it's clearly propaganda. xD there are no attacks being planned.. please.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:58 pm |
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| Borg771 wrote: | | do you really expect people to believe that bs? it's clearly propaganda. xD there are no attacks being planned.. please. |
My gosh. You can deny the truth all you want, but that only makes someone more ignorant.
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Borg771
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:03 pm |
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oh? and what makes you an expert on the truth? pull your head out of your *beep* ass.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:04 pm |
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| Borg771 wrote: | | oh? and what makes you an expert on the truth? pull your head out of your *beep* ass. |
What makes YOU an expert on such things, flat-out denying that bin Laden, who ATTACKED us before, is attempting to attack again! Far be it from me to believe that the government is telling the truth on this matter 
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Borg771
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:06 pm |
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5 bloody years ago. show me proof that he is going to attack again. you're so god damned paranoid!
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:10 pm |
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| Borg771 wrote: | | 5 bloody years ago. show me proof that he is going to attack again. you're so god damned paranoid! |
LESS THAN FOUR. And no, I am NOT paranoid. This is a REAL and DANGEROUS threat, and I'm sorry that you cannot see that. And the proof is there, and it's enough.
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Borg771
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:14 pm |
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what proof? propaganda from the administration which you've obviously had shoved down your throat, thats what proof.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:17 pm |
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| Borg771 wrote: | | what proof? propaganda from the administration which you've obviously had shoved down your throat, thats what proof. |
I can see that there is no way to reason with you. Isn't this frightening, people? But meh, I guess people can be ignorant and deny what they wish. But let's not debate over whether or not you see this as a dangerous threat--which you are the only one here who doesn't see terrorism as a threat--or not, but discuss what we should do to prevent another attack, despite it being evident that the Bush Doctrine has been working (Democracy is being pushed across the Middle East, we haven't been attacked since 9/11, etc)
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Arellia
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| Borg771 wrote: | | 5 bloody years ago. show me proof that he is going to attack again. you're so god damned paranoid! |
Might I point out that the attack on 9/11 was planned nearly 10 years in advance. You think that they wouldn't plan just as carefully a second time? Of course they would. It would be a tad more difficult, this time. I wouldn't be surprised at an attack.
And, by the way, your rampant anger is not particularly becoming.
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Theresa
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^He's banned, btw.
And clearly shortsighted...
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:51 pm |
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I think it is serious, I guess I am kinda afraid that Bin Laden will attack us again. But I think I'm a little bit more concerned with the asian countries, There was evidence or sumthin stating they were planning on attacking on california, Well... los angeles.... (I LIVE THERE!!!!!!)
 Why can't we all be one big colony? It is funny to think about how every country thinks they are better than one or the other, When really... we are nothing.. just one small planet in a galaxy. I really hope in time the world will end up like star trek... after World War3 we all unite and become one... and then, well aliens come! That would be awesome!
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:05 pm |
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| Beta6 wrote: | I think it is serious, I guess I am kinda afraid that Bin Laden will attack us again. But I think I'm a little bit more concerned with the asian countries, There was evidence or sumthin stating they were planning on attacking on california, Well... los angeles.... (I LIVE THERE!!!!!!)
Why can't we all be one big colony? It is funny to think about how every country thinks they are better than one or the other, When really... we are nothing.. just one small planet in a galaxy. I really hope in time the world will end up like star trek... after World War3 we all unite and become one... and then, well aliens come! That would be awesome! |
lol. I see it as us already in WWIII--just a different kind of World War. But yes, one day we will be united in one shape or another (the Un could be that), and that will be the last days.
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Beta6
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| Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:10 pm |
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Yea, that is kinda true.. But I think world wars are a lot worse than what we are into right now. But I do see your point.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:40 pm |
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U know bible says there will be wars so there is really nothing we can do just wait til Jesus comes back and straighten this world out.
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| Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:20 am |
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I'm really sorry, but I'm not really going to believe that because this silly old book says so...
I do hope, however, that Earth will be totally united as soon as possible... This would certainly help to solve a lot of problems.
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| Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:40 am |
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I don't believe that first contact will unite everyone. If you look at human behavior, you see that local groups can "unite" on an issue, or "unify" in the perception of an outside group, but deep down humans are provincial, tribal creatures.
You can see this in multinational corporations. At the workplace, employees can speak a single language and adhere to standard business behavior, but back at home folks speak their own language and behave the way they think is normal.
Similary, if we made first contact, people might be somewhat less divided on a global scale, but it's not like we would suddenly speak one lanuage or adopt a world religion. I think that people who felt isolated or in the minority would only feel more so with the addition of an alien race (or races).
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