Found this interesting, didn't have a home, so....

Republican_Man · **Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:17 pm**

I LOVE this quote. It is fantastic and right on.

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

I was initially opposed to the war, but since we're there now I think we have the chance to do some real good. If we can help them build a democracy that can stand on its own power and end the opression of those not in power, I believe we will have done the right thing. Still, I stand by my belief that we picked a bad time to step in in Iraq. Our forces are deployed too far and wide. We must focus on helping nations help themselves, so that they do not need our armed forces to protect them. Otherwise we may soon find that we do not have enough troops left at home to defend ourselves.

Founder · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:23 am**

Shocking isn't it? That people actually call them freedom fighters? That they compare them to George Washington and the founding Fathers. They could have been freedom fighters potentially wise, but they lost it when they murdered civilians.

Starbuck · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:57 am**

I'm actually opposed to the war, but I think since we're there. We HAVE to support our troops.

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Well, in the most basic sense they are indeed freedom fighters, fighting as they are in the hope that the Allied forces will leave.

webtaz99 · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:11 am**

One of the less obvious reasons for occupying Iraq was that it turned that area into one giant sheet of flypaper for evey terrorist who could get there. That's a lot less expensive (both economically and politically) than going from country to country.

webtaz99 · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:12 am**

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

webtaz99 · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:55 pm**

Founder · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:31 pm**

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

I found it interesting that when Bush was commenting on how Putin's restrictions on the press were undemocratic, Putin retorted with(not exact quote, but context is same):

"Well what about the way you fired those CBS reporters."

Scary if a leader is that misinformed about the United States how bad it could be for just a common citizen from another country.

Theresa · **Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:15 pm**

Seriously? Hadn't heard that. CBS made total fools of themselves, and Dan Rather should've left ages ago.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

It is the truuuth. Look in Newsweek if you get it.

Republican_Man · **Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:29 am**

Beta6 · **Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:36 pm**

I am against the war in Iraq. I feel if our president really wanted to help people, He would have gone to places that are far worse than Iraq, Yea taking Saddam out is good, But it would have been more believable if he went to like, Africa or some place that really really needs help. And I feel terrible about all of the innocent lives that were lost during this time... not to mention our soldiers lives. Grrr I can not stand our president.

Leo Wyatt · **Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:35 pm**

You know Beta there are alot of soldiers proud to stand for America just like my husband. That is their job to protect and help. Freedom don't come free, we have to fight to get it. I am for the war. God Bless the troops....

Founder · **Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:37 pm**

webtaz99 · **Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:34 pm**

Let me say that I am IN NO WAY belittling the sacrafice of those soldiers, civilians and their families, BUT

I am sick of all the whining about "how many" people lost their lives during the Iraq war and occupation. More people have died as result of drunk driving (or drivers) over the same period of time JUST IN TEXAS.

Could we have done better? 20/20 hindsight says, "Yes". But we should be saying "It's amazing that we could accomplish the liberation of an oppressed people in so short a time with so little loss of life."