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Republican_Man
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | 4evajaneway wrote: | | Yes, we beat two nations in war easily. It was esentially them throwing rocks at us, while we had machine guns and tanks. If we are so economically powerful, why do we have such unemployment problems? If we have the most powerful weapons, why are we so afraid of other nations weapons? Aren't we being a little full of ourselves? |
A powerful economy does not mean that everyone is employed. Communism tries to keep everyone employed, and it has been shown to be a losing game. If the US government would make it less rather than more profitable to export jobs, we would only have the unemployment due to peple being too lazy to work.
Having such a powerful economy, the powers that be stand to lose the most from the economic repercussions of being attacked; that's why "we" are so afraid of other nations' weapons.
And being a little full of ourselves is a national tradition, going back to before we were a nation.  |
Forgive me for my short post, but GREAT points.
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Founder
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| Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:30 am |
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | Yes, we beat two nations in war easily. It was esentially them throwing rocks at us, while we had machine guns and tanks. If we are so economically powerful, why do we have such unemployment problems? If we have the most powerful weapons, why are we so afraid of other nations weapons? Aren't we being a little full of ourselves? |
Them throwing rock at us!? Really? What do you call the guns they used to shoot at our toops? The bombs they strapped to themselves to blow up a building? The knives they used to cut off an innocent person's head?
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Jeremy
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| Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:50 am |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | We understand what you are trying to say. Our point is that we are not "holding a gun up to" anyone's head. We are defending ourselves from a very real threat. The other nations should stop acting like we're terrorizing them. The problem stems from the Iraq War. They saw how easily we invaded the country and took over. They are SCARED that we will do it to them. The thing is that they should not be scared. We won't do anything like that. |
Well, yeah, you're right. It's unfortunate that the majority of Europeans do not see the threat of terrorism, etc. Only the US does. And only the US is leading in the fight against it. And only the US is leading the fight for freedom. But they ARE jealous of our power, too. |
I seem to remeber Britiain helping in the war. And also implamenting terror legislation and so on. I also seem to remember a train bombing in Spain. And also other countries involved in a Coalition. Do not think for one moment the US is the only one in this fight against terror. As others have said jealousy is only a small factor by a small minority. A lot of the reason for anti-american feeling in Europe is actually people not thinking about the reasons why they don't like America. As it has become more normal for people to not like America then others have followed it. This is a stupid reason IMO, but there is also a lot of other reasons that people here don't like America. Some such as a country should pay attention to its own affairs and not interfer with other countries. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, for either America to involve itself, or other people believing they shouldn't - it depends on each situation. Yes, America is a great nation and does well, but jealousy is not one of the main reasons. 
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/\ no no no no no. You miss th analogy. They don't have the quality weapons we have, so they are forced to strap bombs to themselves and blow things up. Its merely using the only weaponary they have. They don't have an M4 until the kill a soldier that has one.
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Jeremy
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I presume you were responding to Founders Post. They do have a certain amount of good weapons, but not nearly in the amount that the coaltion forces have. But they don't have quite so high tech stuff like aircraft. I disgaree that they use these weapons on innocent civilians though.
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Natira
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Maybe I missed the point, but isnt it not so much the weapons used, but the hatred and the intent to do harm to another human being the issue. It doesn't matter what you use... If a man shoots someone to death, is he worse than someone who strangled someone to death?
How about if someone is looking for justice? It's not exactly the same as going after everyone just to get even.
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Jeremy
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| Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:42 pm |
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I agree with that, but I *think* that they above points were saying that some of the tatics and weapons used were because they would never be able to get better ones. I can agree with that, but I disagree with weapons such as swords being used to behead people, these are not deseperate people fighting for their freedom (although that will depend on the viewpoint) but obviously terrorists fighting for evil.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:25 am |
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The terrorists use a deadly weapon. Suicide bombers.
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