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Cloning Questions..
Clone More Cats
14%
 14%  [ 2 ]
Scientists Need To Clone Dogs
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Clone More Sheeps
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
I want to see a cloned Rabbit
21%
 21%  [ 3 ]
No To All Cloning
57%
 57%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 14

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borgslayer
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PostFri Feb 25, 2005 10:35 pm    Cloning Poll...

What should be cloned or should the cloned animals be cloned some more?

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Alucard
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PostFri Feb 25, 2005 11:06 pm    

I don't like cloning

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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 12:33 am    

Im surprised there is not an option for cloning Humans.

Uh....cloning is a delicate topic. I don't think Humans should be cloned but if we can find a way to clone a human body part? That may be helpful.


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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 12:36 am    

Founder wrote:
Im surprised there is not an option for cloning Humans.

Uh....cloning is a delicate topic. I don't think Humans should be cloned but if we can find a way to clone a human body part? That may be helpful.


Yeah, I'm with you. (Boy, did that sound like someone else, )



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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 1:04 am    

Indeed. Cloning animals is fine, as long as they aren't treated any worse than normal animals.

I don't think entire human beings should be cloned, especially not to harvest organs. However cloning singular organs would be fine.


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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 5:28 am    

You can breed animals so why not clone them. As long as it done for the purpose of Solving the hunger in the world and not as a luxury or better business, since we already have a Cattle overflow. Cloning cats and/or dogs is silly. Cloning humans is not a very good idea since they are intelligent beings.



Question: How can you clone a body part or organ seperately?



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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 11:04 am    

Individual organs are fine, whole humans aren't.

Animals, well, depends on the reasons.


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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 11:20 am    

Yes i agree with the whole cloning organs thing.

and in the interest of stopping hungar in the world i would say clone pigs or chickens...even though there are already more chickens on earth than there are humans



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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 1:49 pm    

It is not widely known, but every single animal cloned so far has shown genetic and/or developmental abnormalities. As an example, the famous "Dolly the cloned sheep" has cells which are like those of a older sheep, like a child with middle-aged cells.

Also, the average cloned animal takes on the order of 20 tries to get one success, so cloning has a long way to go before it can replace natural methods in terms of productivity. It can, however potentially provide copies of ideal specimens to make a certain trait more common in a breed.



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Arellia
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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 4:06 pm    

lionhead wrote:
Question: How can you clone a body part or organ seperately?


Well, I don't know about Human cloning, but let's take a flatworm...if, during early cellular stages of development you isolate a cell or set of cells from the group and let it grow, the cells are determinate. Meaning that they will continue to grow into whatever organ they're genetically coded to grow into, without the other organs attatched. You take half of the cells from an flatworm before it's developed, you get half a flatworm. Problem being that it will die. The trick, I would assume, is keeping the organ(s) alive... that's just an idea.

I'm against cloning, for precisely the reason webtaz99 laid out. There are too many abnormalities that appear in almost all cloned animals, and it feels to me inhumane to create a life that's going to be handicapped while you have better chances of getting a healthy organism through due natural process.


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PostSat Feb 26, 2005 8:23 pm    

There is a fascinating new technology being developed which uses a device much like the head in an ink-jet printer to lay down layers of different types of cells in a three-dimensional matrix. The ultimate goal is to create specific organs for people by building them from cells taken from that person. That way there is no rejection or complications from rejection drugs. This involves cloning of individual cell types, which is much more reliable (and hopefully less ethically involved) than cloning a whole organism.


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