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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:40 pm    

Oh sheesh.


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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:42 pm    

What? I was being serious and sincere and whatnot.

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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:43 pm    

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Shi-tty would be the word. But it wasnt anything bad, I was thanking you for giving me stuff to write on my test. It was happiness.


Uh huh....well um no problem. If there is one thing you can find en mass in this site its Anti-Catholiscm.


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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:44 pm    

Indeed, it's everywhere, I'm not anti-catholic, just in case I came across that way, They just humour me.


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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:45 pm    

Well I am anti-catholic. I just dont agree with alot of stuff they do. Its ironic, since im the pope and all.

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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:49 pm    

IntrepidIsMe wrote:
Indeed, it's everywhere, I'm not anti-catholic, just in case I came across that way, They just humour me.


Well we live to humor you.

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Well I am anti-catholic. I just dont agree with alot of stuff they do. Its ironic, since im the pope and all.


If you were the Pope I would have converted to Islam a LONG time ago.


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PostWed Jan 19, 2005 7:51 pm    

How silly of you.



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PostWed Jan 26, 2005 6:03 pm    

I'm baaaaack!

Because I was not allowed to post here:

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Ok in all seriousness then. Kerry certainly did not lose because of us evil Catholics. Kerry lost because he is a complete and utter pansy. No one knew where he stood in anything. All he said was "I went to Vietnam and im not George Bush, vote for me." Sadly a lot of people rallied to him. Anyways the topc is about Catholiscm. Im Catholic and im sure you won't believe this but I did not vote for Kerry cause they told me not to. They didn't EVER say it was a sin to vote for him. They dislike his views and simply stated it. Unless they literally said its a sin which is kinda funny. But you're absolutely right. Not putting Kerry is office will definitly be societies undoing. Agreed.


Exactly. You are right on. Look at Kerry, a supposed Catholic. He's not a very good one, if that's what you're thinking.

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The catholics, like any group, effected the election. But not solely. I know this.

And I know you vote how you want, but most people rely on the church to make all their decisions.

And yes, they did outright state that. Because Kerry supports abortion, and thats a sin to them, they decided that voting for Kerry would be a sin, and told everyone that. Total BS.

As for societies undoing, it has nothing to do with the election. Just catholicism in general.


How is it BS?

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Defiant wrote:
The catholics, like any group, effected the election. But not solely. I know this.

And I know you vote how you want, but most people rely on the church to make all their decisions.

And yes, they did outright state that. Because Kerry supports abortion, and thats a sin to them, they decided that voting for Kerry would be a sin, and told everyone that. Total BS.

As for societies undoing, it has nothing to do with the election. Just catholicism in general.


Many groups affected it just like you said. Besides whats the problem? Catholics made their choice. This is a DEMOCRACY. They went for who they felt was the right man. Who cares about the reason? If Catholics rallied to vote for Kerry en masse, we wouldn't be having this discussion im sure.


EXACTLY!

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No, my problems with catholicism, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ELECTION. At all. Absolutely nothing. It was just one point. They abuse their influence over people to push their own agenda. Its not right.


Suuuuuuuuuuuuurrrreeeeee. And then you state "I hate Catholics." Right. I believe you.

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You know, theyre the same faith. Only difference, Lutheranism doesnt prioritize access to heaven based on your job in life. Catholicism will allow for monks and priests to go ahead of others. Silliness IMO.

Anyways, theres also the sexual abuse thing. You knew I just had to throw it out there. And I know, its silly. Dont even bother yelling at me for it. Just had to mention.


And these Priests should be thrown out. Yes they should. Don't bring it up--it's not mainstream.

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Defiant wrote:
You know, theyre the same faith. Only difference, Lutheranism doesnt prioritize access to heaven based on your job in life. Catholicism will allow for monks and priests to go ahead of others. Silliness IMO.

Anyways, theres also the sexual abuse thing. You knew I just had to throw it out there. And I know, its silly. Dont even bother yelling at me for it. Just had to mention.


Well priests and monks did give their lives in service of God. Of course they will be rewarded. Thats all its saying, geez.

Of course you did. Because a few bad priests represent the entire Religion. There are a few bad Muslim terrorist. Obviously Islam is evil. Athiest want to screw up our Pledge. So obviously they are un patriotic.


Exactly. Good point.

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Well, I agree that the church has no right to say who you should or shouldn't vote for, or try to directly influence your vote. There's a seperation of church and state.

But that doesn't apply to the church saying something like that


However, if you are a practicing Catholic, and follow Catholic law, you'd have no already that you shouldn't vote Democratic/for Kerry. That's just common sense. Should Catholics be offended because the church thinks they're stupid (as they've had to tell them not to vote for Kerry)? Who knows.


No.

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Well, I simply responded to your example.

I agree either way, the Catholic Church is pretty funny institution anyway you look at it. Don't kill, but lets murder a few thousand muslims... Free will, but hey you're going to jail for saying the earch is round... Pretty interesting.


A LOOOOONNNNNGGG time ago! Don't even bother bringing that up!

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Ya'll are right. *Turns to RM* They got us man. They exposed our hidden evils we did centuries ago. So obviously we're still evil to this day. Whites brutalized blacks in the past. So obviously they can't rectify their mistakes. Whites are evil too. I can't understand why I don't convert.


Oh, yes, exactly.

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My "scarcasm" is not to spam. Im trying to prove a point. What IntrepidIsMe said is about Catholiscm of the past. BTW tons of Catholics died by Muslims too. Its not like they were the only ones to die. Catholiscm has done many bad things. They ignored the Holocaust. They didn't mind the slavery in the US. The institution in the past was TERRIBLE but its different now. Besides the instituion is a figurehead. It does not represent the faith.


Right on.

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He is part of the heirarchy of Catholiscm. We don't worship the Pope, despite popular belief. What? No. Catholics most certainly gave them the option to convert. Muslicm made peopel convert to Hinduism? I find that hard to believe. You would they would force them into Islam...


Oh I see you and Defiant are pointing out the bad sides of my Religion with no good sides. Got'cha.


Right.

Defiant wrote:
Well I am anti-catholic. I just dont agree with alot of stuff they do. Its ironic, since im the pope and all.


Oh come on! That has got to be one of the most--grrr! That is HIGHLY offensive!



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