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Jon Sophomore Cadet
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 11 Location: Star Base Prime
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Tue May 28, 2002 7:24 am Lights speed |
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What would happend if you travel with light speed and suddenly turn on the light?
And whats the speed of darkness
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Tue May 28, 2002 7:46 am Re: Lights speed |
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Jon wrote: | What would happend if you travel with light speed and suddenly turn on the light?
And whats the speed of darkness |
nobody has done this to find out
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Rachel@VAQ Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 104 Location: England
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Tue May 28, 2002 3:47 pm Re: Lights speed |
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Jon wrote: | What would happend if you travel with light speed and suddenly turn on the light?
And whats the speed of darkness |
I don�t know because as far as I know no one has succeeded in travailing at the speed of light. In fact scientists are still debating the actual speed of light, So far they have always thought the speed of light was constant but now they think other wise.
I could be wrong but I don�t think there�s any such thing as the speed of darkness. It is a complicated subject and I'm not really sure how to explain it. I don�t think it travels anywhere; darkness is just darkness is just there.
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Delta-Alpha Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 121 Location: Manchester, England (I want to go home to FL)
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Tue May 28, 2002 4:38 pm |
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I heard that if you travel faster than light then you become non-existent as you are no longer obeying the laws of physics. Einstein might of been wrong though (yeah right)
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MT39503 Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 1437 Location: AZ
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Wed May 29, 2002 5:39 pm |
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if you were travling at light Speed Warp 1 The light could keep up. Darkness isn't a tangable thing. It is a lack of something - in this case light...so I suppose it has no speed.
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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Wed May 29, 2002 7:40 pm |
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One thing about general relativity that is hard to understand is the thought that light ALWAYS travels at light speed (bingo! I just solved the photon torpedo puzzle!), relative to ANYTHING. Meaning that if you move at near light speed, photons will still move at lightspeed past you.
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MT39503 Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 1437 Location: AZ
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Thu May 30, 2002 9:28 pm |
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parkan wrote: | One thing about general relativity that is hard to understand is the thought that light ALWAYS travels at light speed (bingo! I just solved the photon torpedo puzzle!), relative to ANYTHING. Meaning that if you move at near light speed, photons will still move at lightspeed past you. |
This isn't proven and is trying to be disproven as we speak. But, if early theoris are correct your description is correct.
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Paul Marshall Rear Admiral
Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 2976 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina
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Man, all this stuff yall are talking about is too complicated.
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:35 pm Re: Lights speed |
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Jon wrote: | What would happend if you travel with light speed and suddenly turn on the light?
And whats the speed of darkness |
You cannot travel at light speed, it is impossible. With a warp drive system you do not move at all, but you warp the space around you to create the effect, and accomplish the purpose of movement, without actually moving, enabling you to "disobey" the laws of general relativity.
The speed of darkness you say? All darkness is is an absence of light, so I guess you could say that "darkness" travels at the speed of light.
Think of it like this. Night vision goggles enable you to see in the dark. It is dark at night because we aren't getting direct sunlight anymore, like during the day. There is some light, but not in noticeable amounts. Night vision goggles amplify the light entering your pupil, enabling you to see better when it is dark outside.
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admiral Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 252 Location: bridge of U.S.S Akira
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:42 pm |
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it has indeed something to do with the laws of relativity. according to these laws when you are inside a starship which is flying with the speed of light and you switch on the light you should see it because the actual light in the starship is not affected by the conditions outside the ship. this statement can be proven with a simple example: when you are inside a car travelling with a speed of let's say 120 kph and you throw up a ball you will see that the ball is not affected by the current speed, it will fall back just in your hand with no movement in horizontal directions.
on the other hand if you throw up a ball when still accelerating it will move in a horizontal direction to the back of your car. this is the same for light. I think when a ship is accelerating from a speed: 0-6xlightspeed
you won't see light during the acceleration process from 1lightspeed to 6lightspeed and as soon the speed is stable you will be able to see lights.
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~Voyager Fan~ Captain's Assistant
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 83 Location: On board voyager assisting the captain
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:28 am Re: Lights speed |
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Jon wrote: | What would happend if you travel with light speed and suddenly turn on the light?
And whats the speed of darkness |
Well well, thats a good question. But darkness does not have any speed at all, 4 now.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:47 am Re: Lights speed |
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~Voyager Fan~ wrote: |
Well well, thats a good question. But darkness does not have any speed at all, 4 now. |
Thats right, light has a speed but darkness is something that doesn't reach our eyes.
If there is no light there is darkness instantenious.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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isnt darkness the absene of light?
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:51 am |
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starnova wrote: | isnt darkness the absene of light? |
Indeed.
Light is actually made up of energy quanta. Darkness is just the absence of EM energy that is visible to the human eye.
So even though it may seem like your room is dark and scary at night, there are really a lot of EM waves travelling around . . . and they are watching you.
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Link Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 1258 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:21 pm |
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOoo
lol
yeh...hey! I'm supposed to be the sci wiz around here...
ah well...
i basically agree with every statement here...
(ducks mod's wrath at pointless post)
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Captain Leah Manzer Vice Admiral
Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Posts: 5221 Location: State of Insanity
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:29 pm |
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*Takes out handy "A brief History Of time by Stephen Hawkings that is right by computer*
lol! I'm not even joking. I was doing an essay on something to this effect, and Hawkings said that:
"...e=mc^2.. the law that nothing may travel faster then the speed of light. Because equivalence of energy and mass the energy which as object has due to its motion will add to its mass. In other words, it will make it harder to increase its speed. This effect is only really significant for objects moving at speeds close to the speed of light....As an object approches the speed of light, its mass rises ever more quickly, so it takes more and more energy to speed it up further. It can in fact never reach the speed of light because by then its mass would have become infinite, and by then equivalence of mass and energy, it would have taken an infinite amount of energy to get it there. For this reason any normal object is forever confined by realitivity to move at speeds slower then the speed of light. "
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:09 pm |
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Starships in Star Trek don�t actually move faster than light. The warp field warps the space around the ship so that the ship is actually moving at sub light speeds through the space immediately surrounding its hull.
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