| The reported price tag for President Bush's inauguration is $40 million. What best describes your view? |
| $40 million is not too much for an inauguration. |
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| $40 million is too much. We have a deficit and we are at war. |
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IntrepidIsMe
Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002
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 Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:28 pm |
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Haha, I was still stuck on the suit thing, 
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Puck
The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:30 pm |
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If he wants to talk about his victory, how about splitting that 40 million up and sending some to all the people that handed him the victory.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Dallas, TX
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:31 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | JanewayIsHott wrote: | Tsss, it is not his "party". It is his first day on the job, and what is the first thing he does? Spend $200,000 on a suit  . |
I know, that IS a lot. HOWEVER, it IS his party. It IS celebrating his victory. --EDIT-- But yes, I agree with Exalya. It is DEFINITELY too much. He can muster enough money, I'm sure, w/out having to use much Fed. funds.
However, I could just picture what Kerry would spend! And you think Bush is spending a lot... |
I really don't care. I'm mad, and I have a grudge with Mr. Bush and his spending now. It's ridiculous and irresponsible. But, I think I've expressed myself, so until another issue arises, I'll quit saying the same thing over again. *bows and walks off*
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:32 pm |
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I think we're all in agreement on the crux of the issue, nonetheless. It is too much.
| Exalya wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Tsss, it is not his "party". It is his first day on the job, and what is the first thing he does? Spend $200,000 on a suit . |
I know, that IS a lot. HOWEVER, it IS his party. It IS celebrating his victory. --EDIT-- But yes, I agree with Exalya. It is DEFINITELY too much. He can muster enough money, I'm sure, w/out having to use much Fed. funds.
However, I could just picture what Kerry would spend! And you think Bush is spending a lot... |
I really don't care. I'm mad, and I have a grudge with Mr. Bush and his spending now. It's ridiculous and irresponsible. But, I think I've expressed myself now, so until another issue arises, I'll quit saying the same thing over again. *bows and walks off* |
You are JUST NOW mad at his spending? I've been mad at his spending since I became interested in politics! It's RIDICULOUS!
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:35 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | I think we're all in agreement on the crux of the issue, nonetheless. It is too much.
| Exalya wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Tsss, it is not his "party". It is his first day on the job, and what is the first thing he does? Spend $200,000 on a suit . |
I know, that IS a lot. HOWEVER, it IS his party. It IS celebrating his victory. --EDIT-- But yes, I agree with Exalya. It is DEFINITELY too much. He can muster enough money, I'm sure, w/out having to use much Fed. funds.
However, I could just picture what Kerry would spend! And you think Bush is spending a lot... |
I really don't care. I'm mad, and I have a grudge with Mr. Bush and his spending now. It's ridiculous and irresponsible. But, I think I've expressed myself now, so until another issue arises, I'll quit saying the same thing over again. *bows and walks off* |
You are JUST NOW mad at his spending? I've been mad at his spending since I became interested in politics! It's RIDICULOUS! |
I heard he'd spent too much, but I never saw any real figures. I see 40 million wasted dollars, and I finally get the picture. It's such a vast demonstration of it that I can scarcely believe it. Bad move on his part...very bad.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:35 pm |
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Presidential Suite Package at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel: $200,000
First Lady's Inaugural Gown: $10,000
Cost of one fully armored military Humvee: $150,000
Overall Price of Ignauguration: $40 million
Angry Conservatives AND Happy Conservatives (at the same time): Priceless
For everything else, there's being a Democrat.
((My lousy attempt at humor ))
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:40 pm |
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| Exalya wrote: | | I heard he'd spent too much, but I never saw any real figures. I see 40 million wasted dollars, and I finally get the picture. It's such a vast demonstration of it that I can scarcely believe it. Bad move on his part...very bad. |
Where have you been? ( ) He's spent a surplus and brought it to a deficit! Given it's during two wars, but yeah.
You know what REALLY gets me mad, though? The University of Michigan is using STUDENT FUNDS for the protests of the Ignaugruation! STUDENT FUNDS! And guess what? Republicans on campus are NOT happy about it!
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Puck
The Texan
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:42 pm |
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Well who should pay for it then? Is it not the students protesting?
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:43 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Well who should pay for it then? Is it not the students protesting? |
Yes, students are protesting, but the school is using STUDENT FUNDS from EVERYONE, even those that are OPPOSED TO IT. If they want to use student funds, then they should only use those of those that PROTEST the election (whether they're going or not). It's not right.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:45 pm |
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Let me lay it out for you:
Let's say I'm a student at the University of Michigan, and I'm a Republican.
I give money to the school, because I have to. Then, the school gives the money that I gave to those that are going to protest the man that I support. That's not right.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:58 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Exalya wrote: | | I heard he'd spent too much, but I never saw any real figures. I see 40 million wasted dollars, and I finally get the picture. It's such a vast demonstration of it that I can scarcely believe it. Bad move on his part...very bad. |
Where have you been? ( ) He's spent a surplus and brought it to a deficit! Given it's during two wars, but yeah.
You know what REALLY gets me mad, though? The University of Michigan is using STUDENT FUNDS for the protests of the Ignaugruation! STUDENT FUNDS! And guess what? Republicans on campus are NOT happy about it! |
I've been here! Around! I just...didn't know what he spent it on.
And I agree with you on the school...they could use money from clubs or something on campus that are partisan and have an interest in the protest, not from the money collected from all the students.
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Hitchhiker
Rear Admiral
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| Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:14 pm |
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Bah. $40 Million? You should see our governor general's 'budget'. 
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LightningBoy
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| Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:24 am |
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In the greater economic picture $40 million is chump change.
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MJ
Lieutenant Commander
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| Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:29 am |
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nvm
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Founder
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| Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:40 am |
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This is not a big deal. I've heard of clothing that cost more. People just need a reason to complain I guess.
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CJ Cregg
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| Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:58 pm |
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| Quote: | But a review of the cost for past inaugurations shows Mr. Bush's will cost less than President Clinton's second inauguration in 1997, which cost about $42 million. When the cost is adjusted for inflation, Mr. Clinton's second-term celebration exceeds Mr. Bush's by about 25 percent.
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The significant majority of funding for this year's festivities, including nine officials balls, are from private donations and tickets for events held by the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a similar setup to fund raising Mr. Clinton used to underwrite his inauguration. Mr. Clinton had a record 12 balls in 1997.
A Jan. 20, 1997, story by USA Today estimated about $12.7 million of Mr. Clinton's inauguration was financed by U.S. taxpayers. Initial estimates indicate the District will foot about $17 million in security costs this year.
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President Johnson didn't eschew pageantry in 1965, racking up a $1.6 million bill for inaugural festivities despite the Vietnam War, historian Robert Dallek told Reuters.
In 1997, there was grumbling that the inauguration cost too much. But Clinton spokesman Barry Toiv said at the time, "It's really a symbol to the world and has been for over 200 years, and it's worth celebrating." |
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:29 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | Let me lay it out for you:
Let's say I'm a student at the University of Michigan, and I'm a Republican.
I give money to the school, because I have to. Then, the school gives the money that I gave to those that are going to protest the man that I support. That's not right. |
Once you give the school money it no longer belongs to you, it now belongs to the school and they may do with it as they please.
At My college the History club got a couple thousand dollars of student money to take it's members and other people to see 'Alexander' for free, claiming that the movie was historically acurate. The movie was no where near historically acurate but they got the money anyway.
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Founder
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| Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:44 pm |
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| charmed88 wrote: | | Quote: | But a review of the cost for past inaugurations shows Mr. Bush's will cost less than President Clinton's second inauguration in 1997, which cost about $42 million. When the cost is adjusted for inflation, Mr. Clinton's second-term celebration exceeds Mr. Bush's by about 25 percent.
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The significant majority of funding for this year's festivities, including nine officials balls, are from private donations and tickets for events held by the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a similar setup to fund raising Mr. Clinton used to underwrite his inauguration. Mr. Clinton had a record 12 balls in 1997.
A Jan. 20, 1997, story by USA Today estimated about $12.7 million of Mr. Clinton's inauguration was financed by U.S. taxpayers. Initial estimates indicate the District will foot about $17 million in security costs this year.
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President Johnson didn't eschew pageantry in 1965, racking up a $1.6 million bill for inaugural festivities despite the Vietnam War, historian Robert Dallek told Reuters.
In 1997, there was grumbling that the inauguration cost too much. But Clinton spokesman Barry Toiv said at the time, "It's really a symbol to the world and has been for over 200 years, and it's worth celebrating." |
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Seems like Bush isn't the only one to do start off with a bang.
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Kyre
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| Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:01 am |
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| Founder wrote: | | charmed88 wrote: | | Quote: | But a review of the cost for past inaugurations shows Mr. Bush's will cost less than President Clinton's second inauguration in 1997, which cost about $42 million. When the cost is adjusted for inflation, Mr. Clinton's second-term celebration exceeds Mr. Bush's by about 25 percent.
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The significant majority of funding for this year's festivities, including nine officials balls, are from private donations and tickets for events held by the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a similar setup to fund raising Mr. Clinton used to underwrite his inauguration. Mr. Clinton had a record 12 balls in 1997.
A Jan. 20, 1997, story by USA Today estimated about $12.7 million of Mr. Clinton's inauguration was financed by U.S. taxpayers. Initial estimates indicate the District will foot about $17 million in security costs this year.
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President Johnson didn't eschew pageantry in 1965, racking up a $1.6 million bill for inaugural festivities despite the Vietnam War, historian Robert Dallek told Reuters.
In 1997, there was grumbling that the inauguration cost too much. But Clinton spokesman Barry Toiv said at the time, "It's really a symbol to the world and has been for over 200 years, and it's worth celebrating." |
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Seems like Bush isn't the only one to do start off with a bang. |
But you just said it wasn't a big deal.
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Founder
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| Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:21 pm |
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| Kyre wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | charmed88 wrote: | | Quote: | But a review of the cost for past inaugurations shows Mr. Bush's will cost less than President Clinton's second inauguration in 1997, which cost about $42 million. When the cost is adjusted for inflation, Mr. Clinton's second-term celebration exceeds Mr. Bush's by about 25 percent.
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The significant majority of funding for this year's festivities, including nine officials balls, are from private donations and tickets for events held by the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a similar setup to fund raising Mr. Clinton used to underwrite his inauguration. Mr. Clinton had a record 12 balls in 1997.
A Jan. 20, 1997, story by USA Today estimated about $12.7 million of Mr. Clinton's inauguration was financed by U.S. taxpayers. Initial estimates indicate the District will foot about $17 million in security costs this year.
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President Johnson didn't eschew pageantry in 1965, racking up a $1.6 million bill for inaugural festivities despite the Vietnam War, historian Robert Dallek told Reuters.
In 1997, there was grumbling that the inauguration cost too much. But Clinton spokesman Barry Toiv said at the time, "It's really a symbol to the world and has been for over 200 years, and it's worth celebrating." |
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Seems like Bush isn't the only one to do start off with a bang. |
But you just said it wasn't a big deal. |
Wow you really need a reason to complain don't you?
Im saying spending that kinda money isn't a big deal. I wasn't accusing Clinton of spending a lot either. Im just saying both Inagurations had a nice amount of money. They could have had 40 billion and I wouldn't have cared.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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| Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:42 pm |
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Still, it would be nice if they could find better uses to put our money towards/ |
If it were our money, I'd agree. But since most of it was private donations...
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