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Puck The Texan
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:38 pm Mother Forces Child to Drink Bleach for Losing Virginity |
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Cops: Mom Killed Girl for Losing Virginity
Friday, January 14, 2005
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. � A mother forced her 12-year-old daughter to drink bleach for having sex and sat on her until the child died, a police detective said, adding that a 9-year-old brother was forced to watch the attack.
Detective Warren Cotton's testimony came Thursday in a preliminary hearing for Tunisia Archie (search), 31, of the Wylam neighborhood, who is charged with capital murder in the asphyxiation death of Jasmine Archie (search). If convicted, she could be sentenced to death or life in prison without parole.
District Judge Sheldon Watkins sent the case to a grand jury for review.
Cotton said Archie, who is being held in jail without bond, gave several statements about what happened on Nov. 26.
Archie was disturbed, Cotton said, because "her daughter told her that she was no longer a virgin."
She said she poured bleach into Jasmine's mouth and the child vomited, he said.
"She told me that she sat on her chest until she stopped breathing," Cotton said.
Jasmine was 5 feet 10 and weighed 240 pounds, while the mother is tall and slender. But the medical examiner ruled that Jasmine died from asphyxia (search), which is caused by suffocation, and was found dead, on her back, in her bedroom.
Jasmine's brother, Jacorey, 9, was made to stand in a corner and watch the entire attack. Archie "told him that if he shed a tear that she was going to kill him, too," Cotton testified.
Defense lawyer David Luker said a mental evaluation of Archie has not been completed.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:39 pm |
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OMG! This is HORRIBLE and EVIL! Sure, the girl needed to be punished, but still! (But 12 years old and having sex? Jeeze. What's this world coming to?) Either way, though, this is HORRIBLE. She should be punished severely.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:40 pm |
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What a bad mama. She should have just taught her kid about sex the right way instead of killing her. I hope she rots in prison I would say the other thing then again nah, it cause an arguement. lol
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:58 pm |
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WOW. Overreacting much?
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:00 pm |
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Yeah.
And "Jasmine was 5 feet 10 and weighed 240 pounds." That is TALL for a 12 year old.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:03 pm |
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That girl did not need to be killed just because she had sex. Maybe on restriction maybe. Not killed.
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:07 pm |
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Forget about the sex, because whatever mistake this child made was entirely dwarved by her mother's utter evilness. I am still trying to comprehend it. It's not yet registering in my brain, really.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:16 pm |
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I don't think this was the girls fault at all...she was only 12....
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:21 pm |
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JanewayIsHott wrote: | I don't think this was the girls fault at all...she was only 12.... |
Still, but yeah. No reason for killing.
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Kyre Commodore
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:22 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | JanewayIsHott wrote: | I don't think this was the girls fault at all...she was only 12.... |
Still, but yeah. No reason for killing. |
Do I detect some anger towards the dead girl here?
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Josi Rockholt Fleet Admiral
Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 10136 Location: Boston, Ma
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:54 pm |
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I don't think RM is mad towards the girl. More like he's mad at the mother for killing the girl for having sex and making the 9 year old watch. That whole act was dispicable(sp)
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:56 pm |
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Josi Rockholt wrote: | I don't think RM is mad towards the girl. More like he's mad at the mother for killing the girl for having sex and making the 9 year old watch. That whole act was dispicable(sp) |
EXACTLY. Sure, I think the girl shouldn't have done it, but that's part of why the law shouldn't be 12 for sex. But yeah, that mom, well, this is a case where I condone the Death Penalty.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:45 am |
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Sick story. Terrible....I don't even know what to say.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:30 am |
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Sick indeed. Why does this "mother" had 2 children?
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Marill Ensign
Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 65 Location: In front of my computer
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:17 pm |
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Good god, some people shouldn't even be allowed near kids let alone have any.
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Alucard Vampire
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 2780 Location: Caaaaaanada
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:10 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | OMG! This is HORRIBLE and EVIL! Sure, the girl needed to be punished, but still! (But 12 years old and having sex? Jeeze. What's this world coming to?) Either way, though, this is HORRIBLE. She should be punished severely. |
I completly agree
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voy416 Captain
Joined: 28 Oct 2001 Posts: 631 Location: Rock Bottom
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:23 pm |
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Jezzz did not have to kill her.it was the parents fault if the child did not know right from wrong.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:24 pm |
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voy416 wrote: | Jezzz did not have to kill her.it was the parents fault if the child did not know right from wrong. |
Not entirely, but very much so, yes. And yes, NO REASON TO KILL HER.
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Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:43 pm |
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Thats horrible. Just horrible. Why is it always on my birthday?
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:09 pm |
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That mother is just... Geez. She's probably very badly insane...
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:13 pm |
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Why does such a nutjob have 2 children? She probably is insane, yes, beyond treatment. They should lock her up forever.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:33 pm |
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Captain Dappet wrote: | Why does such a nutjob have 2 children? She probably is insane, yes, beyond treatment. They should lock her up forever. |
The insanity defense is used way to much, but thankfully rarely fails. This woman may be insane, but I don't think so. I think she's just evil.
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Krall Klingon General
Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 3863 Location: Lie? I do not lie! Except just then.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:11 pm |
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Anyone got an Adress? I could return the act But thats just me. Hehe, She needs to be stabbed to death with dull spoons.
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:34 pm |
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I wouldn�t kill a child for having sex but I sure would make sure they wished they were dead. I would turn the house into a regiment, make the child sleep on a military cot, remove all their belongings except for clothing. I make the child write written reports on all of his/her daily activities. I would speak to teachers and bus drivers. The child wouldn�t be out of sight of a responsible adult for at least a year, maybe longer. Any way that�s what I�d do.
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:38 pm |
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And I think that's silly, and that it wouldn't help.
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