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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 3:49 am    

Righto, so you're a new prophet telling us stuff that isn't actually in the bible but we should all take it for granted? It clearly states, do not kill, nothing else.

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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 10:56 am    

What did I say that wasn't in the Bible? Where did I say I was a prophet? What did I say should be taken for granted?

It clearly states that? How the f**k would you know that? How often have you read the Bible? Oh im sorry. Dirt, the aithiest, knows more about the Bible than me. How stupid of me to have replied otherwise.


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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 11:16 am    

Why are athesit quoting the bible when they dont believe in God no way. And who are you to tell me I am a hypercrite when you don't know me nor know my heart? Are you God? Last time I checked you not nor or the rest of us. this topic is not about Religion. you brought it in.

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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 11:58 am    

To bring this hijacked topic back on track....


From personal experience of losing a baby, I can tell you that it is one of the most painful and difficult experiences to go through. I by no means condone what she did, but does anyone have any facts on her miscarriage, and who she had to support her with such a terrible loss? Most all of you agree with the temporary insanity plea in certain cases, but it doesnt seem that you'll let her have that excuse. I guess I'm just saying that people do desperate things in desperate times. I dont know her situation, but I do know her pain. Thankfully, I had family and loved ones to help me through it.

I think she needs mental help. If her mind couldn't grasp that what she was about to do was wrong, then killing her won't make her understand.


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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 1:09 pm    

Gee I hope I didnt hijack it I am leaving the topic , aint worth this misery lol

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PostMon Dec 27, 2004 1:25 pm    

Wow. That is a unique breed of awful. It amazes me sometimes what people are capable of.


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PostWed Dec 29, 2004 9:47 am    

On a similar subject....

BBC News wrote:
Murdered schoolgirl was pregnant

A murder hunt is under way after the body of a strangled, heavily-pregnant 14-year-old was found in a churchyard.
Amy Williams' body was found on Monday morning by a man visiting a grave in the grounds of St Michael's Church in Madeley, Telford, Shropshire.

She was naked except for a pair of pink socks and police are asking people to look out for her discarded clothes.

West Mercia Police have set up a major incident room and 60 officers are working on the case.


Officers were expected to talk to her 16-year-old boyfriend on Wednesday, as a routine part of their inquiries.

'Despicable act'

They say they have not yet made any arrests.

Det Chief Insp Dave Morgan said: "Amy was a vulnerable young girl with her whole life ahead of her and for her to be killed in this manner was a shocking and despicable act.

"We are determined to trace whoever is responsible as soon as possible and we are appealing for the public's help.

"Her family are understandably devastated by what has happened and we are giving them all the support we can."

The vicar at St Michael's, Rev Henry Morris, said: "It's really sad. Death at any time of the year is a sad occurrence but especially at this time and in these circumstances."


Police say Amy was last seen between 2100 and 2200 GMT on Boxing Day in Southgate in the Sutton Hill area of Telford.

She is described as white, 5ft 5ins, slim, with long dark hair and was wearing a pink tracksuit, white T-shirt and white Kappa trainers.

Officers are urging anyone who saw her, or who has other information, to come forward.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/shropshire/4130483.stm

Published: 2004/12/29 14:36:49 GMT

� BBC MMIV


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 10:02 am    

Founder wrote:
What did I say that wasn't in the Bible? Where did I say I was a prophet? What did I say should be taken for granted?

It clearly states that? How the f**k would you know that? How often have you read the Bible? Oh im sorry. Dirt, the aithiest, knows more about the Bible than me. How stupid of me to have replied otherwise.


You really hurt my feelings with that

And maybe this is new to you, but people that aren't religious can read too, and you can read the bible for other than directly religious reasons too. And you answer me this, does it or does it not state "do not kill"?


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 11:02 am    

thats sick sick sick, as a religiouse person ill say this: her day of judgment will include this sick thing she has done

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 3:29 pm    

So you telling me let a murderer live that did an evil thing? Sounds twisted to me. She killed a woman and cut out her baby for Goodness sakes. I find that sick and plain out evil in my opinion.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 4:01 pm    

Yes, I think she should live. She should just be in prison for the rest of her life. Killing her won't solve anything.


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 5:41 pm    

Hey, it wasn't me who made up the bible! I don't think it's justice either.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 6:36 pm    

Dirt wrote:
Founder wrote:
What did I say that wasn't in the Bible? Where did I say I was a prophet? What did I say should be taken for granted?

It clearly states that? How the f**k would you know that? How often have you read the Bible? Oh im sorry. Dirt, the aithiest, knows more about the Bible than me. How stupid of me to have replied otherwise.


You really hurt my feelings with that

And maybe this is new to you, but people that aren't religious can read too, and you can read the bible for other than directly religious reasons too. And you answer me this, does it or does it not state "do not kill"?


Ok....Don't know why your feelings were hurt. I guess your just weak like that....

Dude don't bullsh** me. You didn't read the Bible. I've already explained the Do not kill. Its not my fault your too stupid to comprehend it.


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 6:43 pm    

If all you can resort to is insults and calling me names I see no reason to continue a civil discussion with you. For your information, I have read the book, not that that will matter to you much anyway.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 6:48 pm    

Well then if you read it then you wouldn't keep asking the same dumb question over and over.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 6:50 pm    

I'm just trying to show you that either something is contradicting in the bible, or you're being a lousy christian.

And this is pretty elementary, but there is no such thing as a dumb question.


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 6:57 pm    

Nothing is contradicting the Bible. I know you don't believe this but in the Bible God killed people. For example the Great Flood. What "Thou shalt not kill" means is don't kill callously. I know you might be like "Oh thats stupid." Fine. Find it stupid. Thats how I interpret it. Maybe God doesn't want us to kill anyone. Because the Bible does say don't judge people. But something must be done to this individual. Putting them in prison for life seems like they are getting off easy.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 7:04 pm    

Well the bible is really consistent huh...? Seems to me you can do pretty much anything as long you interpret it the right way. Steal, don't steal, kill, don't kill... You'd think God would be able to put some consistency in his story.

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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 7:07 pm    

*Sigh* You'll never understand. Sorry about my earlier comments.

Interpret it the right way? Not consistent? Where did I say its ok to steal? We aren't sayin its ok to kill. We're saying it is acceptable to punish though who murder others. It is consistent.


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PostSat Jan 01, 2005 8:40 pm    

Hmmm, I think those so called "religious leaders" such as the pope are against things like the death penalty. But either way, please, back on topic.


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PostSun Jan 02, 2005 2:20 pm    

Tss Aaron, I'm watching you. Seems like you're going straight to so called hell.

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PostSun Jan 02, 2005 6:18 pm    

What a pleasure to see you again, God,

Yeah, well, we did bet my soul on that poker game, and you clearly cheated, since you knew my hand already (just like everything else). BTW, when's your son coming back? I'm wondering when I should tidy up my room.... Good first impressions are everything.

Tsk, Dirk. You know the rules,


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PostSun Jan 02, 2005 6:40 pm    

I already pmed him about it. Sorry I never mentioned it.

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