Terminator 4

[Superman]

Paradox time.

In the original movie, The Terminator came back in time to kill John Connor's mother, before John Connor was born. Right?

Hang on, if The Terminator had been successful in doing that, John Connor would not have been born. Therefore he would not have grown up and become an opponent of The Terminators. Therefore, there would have been no need for a Terminator to be sent back in time to prevent his existence.

This means that John Connor would have actually grown up, became a resistance fighter and a Terminator would have had to come back in time to prevent his existence.

AGHHH! It's the old Grandfather Paradox we've all seen in movies such as Back To The Future. Best not to get my head round paradoxes!

[Siege]

Think about this, Sarah and John were so adament about stopping the war against the machines in T2, in reality, if they had stopped SkyNet's creation, SkyNet would have never developed the Time Displacement Device, sent a Terminator back to 1984, thus Tech-Com would have not needed to, or been able to for that matter, send Kyle Reese back in time, so he would have never met Sarah Connor, never would have had sex with her, and John would never have been born, or at least, not been the same person (due to having a different father). But nobody thought of this when they wrote the script for the Terminator films.

[Superman]

Interesting.

In all honesty, I ignore time paraodoxes in movies such as Back To The Future. It's still fun to point them out, though.

[Siege]

There's just some things that are incosistant in the Terminator films as well, it's nitpicking basically, but it's stuff they should have sorted out, since they were all big-budget films, such as...

John's age, the first film took place in 1984, okay, Sarah was pregnant at the end, so you figure John would have likely been born in early 1985, which they state in the second film. In the second film, when T-1000 looks up John Connor on the computer in the police car, it says (I think) "D.O.B.: February 10, 1985. AGE: 10" okay, so this places the second film taking place in the year 1995. But, here's where continuity problems arise. When the T-800 is explaining SkyNet's rise to Sarah in the car on the way to Mexico, he says "In three years Cyberdyne becomes the largest supplier of military computers", now SkyNet began the war by attacking Russia on August 29th, 1997. So you mean to tell me that Cyberdyne began supplying computers to the military after SkyNet went self-aware? I don't think so. So the most it could be is two years, not three. Then in the third film, the movie is taking place in 2003, yet John tells the events of the first film as being "10 years ago", not to mention he said that he was 13 at the time, not 10.

[Superman]

Have to admit that I missed that. Interesting stuff, Siege.

Maybe T4 will tie up any loose ends.

[Lord Borg]

the paradoxes are paradoxes i guess, but as for the first one, if the terminator succeded , it would still go back when the future came the present to keep it that way

[lionhead]

[John Connor]

Wouldnt they probley show in T4 the future war that was coming after judgement day?

[Morphy]

Wow... this is the first I heard of this. I hope it comes through.

[Curtis]

I've never seen a single Terminator movie, but this one may change my ways

[Lord Borg]

[Otter]

it just depends on indervisual tast. I'll be happy to see the Terminator films go on and I see no reason why small change's to the layout of the the show shouldn't be made to bring it upto speed. a new lead actor like's already been mentioned.

[madlilnerd]

I think the terminator movies are somewhat confusing anyway!

[The Delta Flyer]

[Lord Borg]

the events at the end of T2 altered the timeline. and yes, they could supply before skynet became aware and still be three years