(UK) Should the cost of postage stamps rise? |
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:11 pm (UK) Should the cost of postage stamps rise? |
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Yes or no?
Right now, the cost of postage stamps is 21p for Second Class and 28p for First Class. There are talks of a rise.
I am for and against it.
Postmen and postwomen are hard workers but thanks to weak management over the years, our own Royal Mail has deteriorated over the years. The once fine service is no longer reliable thanks to the weak management.
I would be willing to pay more for postage stamps. After all, 28p isn't a bad price for a letter to arrive within the UK for the next day (in theory). But I'm only willing to pay such a rise if there is also a rise in productivity and standards.
If it's a case of rising costs and deteriorating services (as has sadly happened with so many services in Britain now), then a rise in price cannot be justified.
I'd also be interested in hearing from other countries on their postal systems.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:18 pm |
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I'm not in the UK, but I say no. NO WAY JOSE. The government takes enough money. They shouldn't take more by raising the price of stamps!
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:41 pm |
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In principle, I am an opponent of higher taxation. I would even argue for tax cuts in this country. I honestly believe it could be done if there wasn't so much waste.
But, even as someone who hates price rises, I will consider postage stamp rises as a "necessary evil" if, and only if, it leads to a better service.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:33 pm |
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Er... Just a question: How often do YOU wright letters? Or do you send something over the 'regular' mail?? I think most of the people send their post through email, but that just might be my small-minded opinion
Come on. When the Euro first introduced himself in our country, the price of our stamps was also raised. It was raised from 0,80 guilder-cents to 0,85 guilder-cents, so 0,39 Eurocents per stamp, I don't mind. I don't send that many postcards. The price also depends on the weight of the thing you send.
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:12 pm |
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I'm interested...does your post office turn a profit? 'Cause in the U.S., usually it actually doesn't...it just pays for the cost of running...
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:21 pm |
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Replying to Belanna1985:
Quote: | Er... Just a question: How often do YOU wright letters? Or do you send something over the 'regular' mail?? I think most of the people send their post through email, but that just might be my small-minded opinion |
Quite often, I'm afraid. Believe it or not but here in Britain, there are still a lot organisations that don't let you correspond by e-mail. Both public and private organisations included, quite a few that don't even have a website.
Replying to Exalya:
Quote: | I'm interested...does your post office turn a profit? 'Cause in the U.S., usually it actually doesn't...it just pays for the cost of running... |
That's interesting to know. As to our postal service, I believe it made it's first profit in years, earlier this year. But for years it's been losing money, thanks to weak management. Unfortunately, it could be awhile before Royal Mail makes a profit again.
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:45 pm |
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The Royal Mail only makes money on Business customers. They lose money on normal letters and parcels and stuff. Well, that's what I was told when I worked for 'em. And yes, they are that bad. Terrible actually. I'm afraid to post letters now after seeing what goes on there.
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:32 pm |
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I say yes.
If the postal service is not bringing in enough money to cover its own costs, then it will have to get its money from other taxes. The post office is a self- sufficient branch of government, and is simply a pay-service.
In the U.S. the postal service has separated itself, mostly, from the government. It runs independently, and is really just another business.
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:25 am |
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Not at the moment. The postal service is getting worse, not better. We're receiving letters after we've meant to have paid them and that causes problems, bills have just gone missing and a first class letter takes up to two weeks to arrive at its destination.
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:04 pm |
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I actually know a postman. He is overworked, believe me. He often covers the work of THREE people. The service has really gone down.
But, with the managers earning six-figure sums, what incentive is there for them to change anything?
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:57 pm |
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Starfleet Dentist wrote: | Replying to Belanna1985:
Quote: | Er... Just a question: How often do YOU wright letters? Or do you send something over the 'regular' mail?? I think most of the people send their post through email, but that just might be my small-minded opinion |
Quite often, I'm afraid. Believe it or not but here in Britain, there are still a lot organisations that don't let you correspond by e-mail. Both public and private organisations included, quite a few that don't even have a website.
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Allright, I didn't know that. Over here it's very little, most is email, and what you sometimes do need to send, you can send it free (it's called an answeringnumber, if you'd translate it litteraly) So you wouldn't have to pay for it.
But do you think that raise the price would improve the quality? Or not?
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:46 pm |
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Replying to Belanna1985:
Quote: | But do you think that raise the price would improve the quality? Or not? |
In my heart of hearts, I don't think so. Because there is a culture of waste and mismanagement in this country, particularly in the public sector. Billions are poured into organisations like the NHS but modernization does not follow.
No doubt any extra revenue that went to Royal Mail would go towards pointless esoteric jobs (such as Diversity Managers) and more money to add to the six-figure salaries that managers pick up.
I'd like to think that raising the cost would improve things. But like I said, in my heart of hearts, I don't think it would.
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Otter Fleet Admiral
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 12895 Location: England
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:51 pm |
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I'm not giving my Stamp of approvel, No.
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:53 pm |
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StarDateDave wrote: | I'm not giving my Stamp of approvel, No. |
Was that an intentional or unintentional pun, StarDateDave.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:19 pm |
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Starfleet Dentist wrote: | No doubt any extra revenue that went to Royal Mail would go towards pointless esoteric jobs (such as Diversity Managers) and more money to add to the six-figure salaries that managers pick up. |
Lol, sounds like a Dilbert scenario.
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