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m021
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| Exalya wrote: | | You can't seperate a person from their religion. It is a part of them. It is not a seperate entity they can turn off when they please. Religion is a fundamental base for one's opinions, and one's belief of how life should be. Forcing religion is wrong, but voting on something because of how you think is not--that's what they ASK when one is allowed to vote. Some religions are radical. That's the only real problem. There are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed. The lines themselves are debatable. Such as with the mistreatment of women. |
Yeah, but many people said "I vote for him, because he believes in God". That's just too easy.
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lionhead
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Good quote: "Today theo van gogh was shot and killed. There were 16 million wounded."
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Arellia
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Location: Dallas, TX
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| Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:26 pm |
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| m021 wrote: | | Exalya wrote: | | You can't seperate a person from their religion. It is a part of them. It is not a seperate entity they can turn off when they please. Religion is a fundamental base for one's opinions, and one's belief of how life should be. Forcing religion is wrong, but voting on something because of how you think is not--that's what they ASK when one is allowed to vote. Some religions are radical. That's the only real problem. There are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed. The lines themselves are debatable. Such as with the mistreatment of women. |
Yeah, but many people said "I vote for him, because he believes in God". That's just too easy. |
Kerry believed in God, too, if you didn't notice.
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Puck
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| Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:31 pm |
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True, he claims himself to be an active and devout Catholic.
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lionhead
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| Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:07 am |
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thats not neccessarely(sp?) a good thing.
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TrekkieMage
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| Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:26 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | True, he claims himself to be an active and devout Catholic. |
I noticed that. But I don't think he makes as big of a deal of religion as Bush seems to.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:48 pm |
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And Bush saying "God Bless America" and claiming he bases his actions on his faith is...a big deal? Heh.
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m021
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| Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:55 am |
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| Exalya wrote: | | Kerry believed in God, too, if you didn't notice. |
Yeah, but BELIEVING in God is not the issue here. It's voting for someone because his religion, and I think that's just wrong. Any people that voted Kerry because of the same reason are no better.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:14 am |
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| m021 wrote: | | Exalya wrote: | | Kerry believed in God, too, if you didn't notice. |
Yeah, but BELIEVING in God is not the issue here. It's voting for someone because his religion, and I think that's just wrong. Any people that voted Kerry because of the same reason are no better. |
...so...it's okay to have your faith, as long as you don't actually act on it, huh? Heh. That's a tad insulting, y'know, saying it's wrong to believe in certain things and then vote for them. I thought that was the principal of voting. It's not just voting for religion, it's voting for principals the candidate stands for, which happens to be associated with his religion. Bush could've flaunted his faith all he wanted, but if he had actually stood for the issues Kerry did, I would not support him, neither would my family, or a good deal of Christians I know. It's not just the religion you're talking about.
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Hitchhiker
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| Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:37 pm |
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I don't think that voting for a certain candidate because of their religion is wrong, it's not any more wrong than voting for the taller candidate would be ("The tall ones are better!" -- Loud Howard). It may not be one of the best ways for you to choose a candidate, I would prefer a candidate who has a better stand on the issues, but it is at least a valid way.
And choosing a candidate because of their religion is preferable to their height . . . 
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Five - seveN
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| Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:09 pm |
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I think that because Bush is Christian, he probably stands for Christian opinions. Most Christians who vote on him would probably agree with him on most other issues, too.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:49 pm |
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| Five - seveN wrote: | | I think that because Bush is Christian, he probably stands for Christian opinions. Most Christians who vote on him would probably agree with him on most other issues, too. |
At the risk of sounding like RM...EXACTLY. 
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superwoman
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| Belanna1985 wrote: | | Five - seveN wrote: | | To show that the Islam is sometimes *cough* |
Christian can also be stupid sometimes. You've got extremist everywhere, in every religion. |
Soooo true.
All extreme religions are crap
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