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CJ Cregg Commodore
Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:50 pm 2008 Election - Who? |
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Who do you think will run for the presidency in 2008?
Clinton? Edwards? McCain? Giuliani? Jed Bush? Howard Dean?
Any ideas? Who would you like to see?
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:55 pm |
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As in Hilary Clinton? Yeah, I'd bet on her. her campaign solgan will we something like "I've already been president for 8 years, what do you have to lose?"
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:01 pm |
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^LOL.
Hm...I wondered about Jeb Bush, but I really don't think another Bush would get elected. On the Dem side, I say it'll come to Hilary or Obama. Obama would be harder to beat than Hilary...he and his wife are both excellent speakers. Republican rumor is Giuliani. Which I wouldn't mind. He seems alright. I'm not really sure. Edwards and Dean blew their chances, though. They're out of it.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:11 pm |
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Clinton-Obama ticket.
Thats what i would have. President Clinton and Vice President Obama
What would Bill clinton be? The First Man?
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:19 pm |
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Leader of the U.N., probably. (And...as the U.N. goes...better Clinton than Anon. I guess.)
I'd go Obama-Clinton, strategically. Obama's more widely liked. One of the best speakers I've heard. He'd do well.
...unfortunately...
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Toad Chief of Security
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 936 Location: The Great Plains
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:34 pm |
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Who knows what the ticket will say on '08. But I think the Constitution should change and have Arnold Swizelnoggin( ) as the next president.
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Curtis Fleet Admiral
Joined: 29 Sep 2001 Posts: 14903 Location: Wisconsin
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:38 pm |
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I don't really know, I'd like to see Russ Feingold run though Who knows what would happen.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 5335 Location: Hiding
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:39 pm |
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charmed88 wrote: | Clinton-Obama ticket.
Thats what i would have. President Clinton and Vice President Obama
What would Bill clinton be? The First Man? |
I agree. That sounds like a good ticket.
Lol, probably...First Man
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:02 pm |
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Lt.CmdrWorf wrote: | Who knows what the ticket will say on '08. But I think the Constitution should change and have Arnold Swizelnoggin( ) as the next president. |
Mm. I don't want that law changed. You could get, like...Brits...and Canadians...and Ketschup Empresses! *heh-heh* No. Much as I like Arnold as my governor, no. And he's a little moderate for me.
FORBES. THAT'S WHO I WANT! Forbes. He's cool.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:17 pm |
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Guiliani-Hilary or Guiliani-Obama. That would be a good race, the 2nd one.
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Jeremy J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 7823 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:00 pm |
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I heard that basically at the moment the two parties "have" to elect someone from the southern states. Something to do with them always winning since the middle part of last centuary... Not sure of the exact details as it was on the radio.
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:07 pm |
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Hilary Clinton would be interesting. Don't you think it would be interesting to have a female President? She's beautiful too. (Not that I'm saying anyone should vote, based on looks).
As for the original question, interestingly enough, a few wrestlers have expressed an interest in running for President. Anyone familiar with Jesse Ventura, former WWF wrestler/Vietnam vet/actor/former governor of Minnesota? Well, in March, he attended a WWE Hall of Fame ceremony and during his speech, he talked about his desire to see a wrestler in the White House in 2008.
Stranger things have happened. If an actor can be President, can a wrestler?
Could you imagine Hulk Hogan as U.S. President, ripping off his shirt on polling day?
Erm, perhaps not.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:08 pm |
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Quote: | Bush victory paves the way for Hillary
As George Bush heads back towards the White House, America's political heavyweights were working out what a second Bush term would mean for them.
Ironically the Bush win could spell good news for former Democrat First Lady Hillary Clinton.
She would be firmly in line for a Democratic presidential bid in 2008, which could lead to her becoming the first woman President of the United States.
Among her main Democratic rivals would be John Edwards, John Kerry's running mate.
Meanwhile, Mr Bush's victory might not guarantee the job security of all those in his inner circle.
So what does the result mean for the political big hitters?
Hillary Clinton - A second Bush victory puts Hillary Clinton, 57, firmly in line for a 2008 run at the presidency. Mrs Clinton, a US Senator from New York, would not be running against an incumbent. She has refused to say publicly if she will run for the top office, but many suspect she wishes to follow in the footsteps of her husband Bill Clinton.
Rudolph Giuliani - The former New York City Mayor became a national hero for his leadership in the aftermath of September 11. He gave a dazzling performance at the recent Republican National Convention, leading some to suspect that he has his hopes set on higher political office.
Some believe that he has been hoping for a post in the second Bush administration. But it is by no means certain that Mr Giuliani, 60, could be tempted away from the lucrative private sector and back into politics. Others believe that he is posturing to run for the White House in 2008.
John Edwards - Mr Kerry's running mate gave up his North Carolina seat in the US Senate to run for the White House. He might return to law, where he was a hugely successful trial lawyer before entering the Senate. But he is known to have big political ambitions and at the age of just 51 cannot be ruled out of a 2008 bid.
Donald Rumsfeld - The Defence Secretary's future is in some doubt. He is 72-years-old and whether he wants another period in the job - after Iraq and Afghanistan - is not known.
If he wishes to stay in the post, Mr Bush, who is staunchly loyal to top administration officials, is likely to approve, particularly while the US is effectively still at war.
Despite his years, Mr Rumsfeld still appears to revel in the challenge of his job, and is always energetic in public. There is an outside chance that Mr Bush would want to remove Mr Rumsfeld, who took much of the flak for the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the deteriorating security situation in Iraq, and replace him with Condoleezza Rice.
Colin Powell - The Secretary of State, 67, has been almost invisible in recent months. His calls for caution before invading Iraq did not square with the Pentagon and the White House, leaving him politically sidelined.
He has hinted strongly that he will step down. He underwent surgery for prostate cancer last December.
Condoleezza Rice - The National Security Adviser, 49, is known to have big political ambitions and is a well-trusted aide of Mr Bush. She could replace Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon. She has also been touted as a possible replacement for Colin Powell. She is considered one of the most likely key figures to be promoted in the second Bush Administration.
Dick Cheney - There is no certainty that the vice president, 63, will remain in office. His health has suffered over the years - he has had four heart attacks - and he has made it clear that he has no political ambitions beyond his current role.
He could move aside for a more ambitious vice president who could then run for the top job for the Republicans in 2008 - the constitution prevents presidents running for a third term. |
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:06 pm |
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What do people think of the proposed consitutional amendment to allow Americans not born in the U.S. to run for President?
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Toad Chief of Security
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 936 Location: The Great Plains
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:08 pm |
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That would be awesome!!!
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:01 pm |
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I could see a Clinton/Obama ticket in '08
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Superman Fleet Admiral
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:29 am |
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Hitchhiker wrote: | What do people think of the proposed consitutional amendment to allow Americans not born in the U.S. to run for President? |
I agree with it.
Obviously, there should be some requirements to be President, if you were not born in the U.S.
I think a person who wasn't born in the U.S. should have the opportunity to be President, provided they have lived and worked continually in the U.S. for at least 25 years.
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Angeldust The Mob Queen
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 6498 Location: In your most wonderful, screwed up dreams. :P
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:32 am |
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Quote: | Guiliani-Hilary or Guiliani-Obama. That would be a good race, the 2nd one. |
This is one of the few times I will agree with RM. It will probably be Clinton-Giuliani.
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:23 am |
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Captain Skenandore wrote: | I don't really know, I'd like to see Russ Feingold run though Who knows what would happen. |
I like Feingold, one of the only Democrats I do like. Too bad, he wouldn't get a nomination. The rest of the Democratic party has gone so far extreme that they'd never allow a guy like him or Lieberman to run.
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:34 am |
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I personally would like to see Rumsfeld run, but seeing that he's about as popular as Head Cheese, I don't think he will. Condy Rice would also be a GREAT candidate, but I think she wants to go back to teaching. Two years ago, I would've said that Trent Lott would be a sure '08 candidate, but that won't happen now.
Possible Republican candidates:
Rudy Giuliani
Jeb Bush
Bill Frist
Elizabeth Dole
Tommy Thompson
John McCain
Norm Coleman (may be the underdog to watch in '08)
I predict that within the next 4 years the Democratic party will split into two partys. The more traditional, moderate Democrats (Zell Miller, Russ Feingold, Joe Lieberman, and maybe get a few Republicans like McCain, ect...), and the new, far-left Democrats (Hillary, Daschle, Edwards, Obama, ect...).
I would not be surprised to see '08 as the first major three way race.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:27 am |
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I would NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. She is way too power hungry, stupid, and annoying. I dont like her at all. It would be really cool to have a woman president, but NOT hillary clinton.
I want Al Sharpton. Im serious too, hes a pimp. He needs to be president.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:10 pm |
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Defiant wrote: | I would NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. She is way too power hungry, stupid, and annoying. I dont like her at all. It would be really cool to have a woman president, but NOT hillary clinton.
I want Al Sharpton. Im serious too, hes a pimp. He needs to be president. |
SHARPTON! Any way, I agree with you 100% on Hillary.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:02 pm |
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Wouldn't mind seeing Howard Dean run again.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:21 pm |
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Sharptons a pimp. You should hear him get interviewed. Jon Stewart said "sometimes the person who knows they cant win, can speak the most freely." That is Al Sharpton. He is a total pimp.
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:49 pm |
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I would LOVE to see Dean run. Really. The soundbytes that could be collected and used on talk radio? PRICELESS! It would be worth it to see just one more yelling fit. Watching that live was simply bliss. ...I don't think he could get nominated, seriously.
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