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Superman
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 Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:11 pm (UK) Should the clocks go back? |
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Okay, the clocks go back an hour very shortly (wow, an extra hour in bed, eh?). Do you think they should go back?
I don't. Okay, there's the superficial reasons such as changing the VCR clock, watch, house clock, oven, central heating system. But I just find it annoying and it plays havoc with my body clock. And does it really make a difference at all?
I think we should keep GMT all year round. BST is a man-made system. But I could be wrong. What do you all think?
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ACDC Girl
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Location: Who Cares. :P
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:13 pm |
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I don't think so cause i don't like setting my clocks back and forwards all the time. i think they should just stay the way they are.
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Superman
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:15 pm |
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I'm just selfish and thinking of my own body clock. But in all seriousness, a lot of people dislike this putting the clocks back, including a farmer I know.
The sooner we abolish it, the better. But it will be interesting to hear the views of those who think we should put the clocks back.
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Jeremy
J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 7823
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:17 pm |
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The reason is so that people get more hours of light as it gets darker. Then you don't miss out on doing things that need lots of light in the winter. In summer this doesn't matter.
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ACDC Girl
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:18 pm |
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I hate it when it gets dark early in the winter. it's no fun 
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1/1
Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 3311
Location: La La Land
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:19 pm |
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I like our time system and I think we should put our clocks back. I can't really explain why I like it. I just do.
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Superman
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:24 pm |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | The reason is so that people get more hours of light as it gets darker. Then you don't miss out on doing things that need lots of light in the winter. In summer this doesn't matter. |
You're right but it's not as much fun. 
By the way, what would happen if I stood there and kept rewinding my clock over and over again? Would I end up in the Stone Age?
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ACDC Girl
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:28 pm |
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Nah, you would just get a screwed up time. 
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1/1
Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 3311
Location: La La Land
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:28 pm |
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| angus young rocks wrote: | | I hate it when it gets dark early in the winter. it's no fun |
I love being able to close the curtains early and have a night in with the tv and a cosy fire.
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ACDC Girl
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:30 pm |
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maybe... but i love going out for evening walks without having to wear a jacket. spagetti strap shirts and short shorts are ok with me. lol 
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1/1
Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 3311
Location: La La Land
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:37 pm |
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Oh I'm the complete opposite. You'll never catch me in shorts or strappy tops unless i'm i a different country lol.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Dallas, TX
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:46 pm |
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Actually...I've always assumed it's to make up for a slight differential--the earth doesn't *technically* take exactly 24 hours to go about. It's more like 23 point something-or-other. However, I've never read anything that confirms this, so I could be wrong. (Although, it is true that a "day" isn't exactly 24 hours)
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Pan13
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 22 Apr 2004
Posts: 338
Location: Belgium
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:25 am |
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i think we shouldn't turn back our clocks for 1 hour, because then it's always so dark so early
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Captain Skyline
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Joined: 09 Aug 2001
Posts: 6646
Location: UK
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:16 am |
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oh come on, how can it effect your body clock that much, its only 1 hour difference.
The clocks change in winter so its lighter in the mornings for people driving to work. Causes less accidents.
But still i dont see really that much of a difference, it should just stay the same.
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Jeremy
J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 7823
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:26 am |
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| Exalya wrote: | | Actually...I've always assumed it's to make up for a slight differential--the earth doesn't *technically* take exactly 24 hours to go about. It's more like 23 point something-or-other. However, I've never read anything that confirms this, so I could be wrong. (Although, it is true that a "day" isn't exactly 24 hours) |
Nah, that's leap years. Each rotation of the earth around the sun takes 355 days and a quarter, so they are added up after every 4 years and make a 356th day.
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Oliver
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Joined: 28 Feb 2004
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Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:07 am |
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| 1/1 wrote: | | Oh I'm the complete opposite. You'll never catch me in shorts or strappy tops unless i'm i a different country lol. |
I believe you, especially since you live in La La Land.
Anyway, Daylight Saving Time (DTS) is a way of getting more out of the summer days by advancing the clocks by one hour during the summer. Then, the sun will appear to rise one hour later in the morning when people are usually asleep anyway, at the benefit of one hour longer evenings when awake.
Benjamin Franklin suggested the method in 1784, but it was first during World War I, in 1916 in several counties in Europe that DST was adopted.
One of the biggest reasons we change our clocks to DST is that it saves energy. Energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting our homes is directly connected to when we go to bed and when we get up.
| Starfleet Dentist wrote: | | And does it really make a difference at all? |
Very much so... In the average home, 25 percent of all the electricity we use is for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs, VCRs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurs in the evening when families are home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, we can cut the amount of electricity we consume each day. Studies done in the 1970s show that we trim the entire country's electricity usage by about 1% every day with DST.
While the amounts of energy saved per household are small... added up they can be very large.
To sum it up:
* DST saves energy.
* DST saves lives and prevents traffic injuries. It allowed more people to travel home from work and school in daylight, which is much safer than darkness.
* DST prevents crime. Because people get home from work and school and complete more errands and chores in daylight, DST also seems to reduce people's exposure to various crimes, which are more common in darkness than in light.
| Starfleet Dentist wrote: | | By the way, what would happen if I stood there and kept rewinding my clock over and over again? Would I end up in the Stone Age? |
I doubt it, but it's worth a try. Keep us posted on your findings.
| Exalya wrote: | | ...I've always assumed it's to make up for a slight differential--the earth doesn't *technically* take exactly 24 hours to go about. |
No, the Earth doesn't; that's why we have leap years. Leap years are needed so that the calendar is in alignment with the earth's motion around the sun.
In the Gregorian calendar, the one most of us use, the following rules decides which years are leap years:
- Every year divisible by 4 is a leap year.
- But every year divisible by 100 is NOT a leap year.
- Unless the year is also divisible by 400, then it is still a leap year.
An average year is about 365.2425 days. With our current system, an error is introduced of 27 secsonds per year (1 day every 3236 years).
But don't worry about all this, leave it to the good scientists. They keep track of the time zones, DST and add a day to February every now and then and thus keep things in order. 
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lionhead
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:00 am |
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| Oliver wrote: | One of the biggest reasons we change our clocks to DST is that it saves energy. Energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting our homes is directly connected to when we go to bed and when we get up.
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Thats true. I find that very funny.
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Birdy
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 am |
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I think it should stay, I've got an hour more sleep tonight!! 
And well yeah.. There's more light when you wanna work and stuff.
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ACDC Girl
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:06 pm |
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It's weird because it doesn't feel like an extra hour of sleep.
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superwoman
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Location: Sweden
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:23 pm |
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| Starfleet Dentist wrote: | | I'm just selfish and thinking of my own body clock. But in all seriousness, a lot of people dislike this putting the clocks back, including a farmer I know. |
lol! Including a farmer you know...
But really. After a few days the "body clock" has settled in hasn't it.
And you guys down on the other side of the globe, you're still in the "summer time" aren't you? God I hate timezones and if you have to think about all that about summer- and winter time, it doesn't make it easier exactly.
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Superman
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| Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:39 pm |
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| Quote: | | lol! Including a farmer you know... |
Yes, I know a farmer. He's not a best buddy who I go drinking with every day but he's an acquaintance. And believe me, farmers work very, very HARD!
| Quote: | | But really. After a few days the "body clock" has settled in hasn't it. |
I suppose so. But it's changing my VCR and central heating system that is really annoying. 
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Thomas
Pool Princess
Joined: 08 Jul 2001
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| Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:42 am |
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Hmmm... it really did feel like an extra hour of sleep, I changed my alarm clock and watch, but the VCR in my bedroom will have to wait until I get around to finding the manual. The boiler, phone and caller display will probably all remain unchanged,
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PrankishSmart
Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002
Posts: 4779
Location: Hobart, Australia.
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| Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:49 am |
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I hate daylight savings purely because of the annoyance with changing all the clocks. I wish all clocks could just change themselves
EDIT: argh, just realised that my profile settings for this site was still set to +10gmt when it should be +11gmt for dst in Tasmania now.
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harrykims#1fan
Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002
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Location: Leicester UK
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| Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:16 am |
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I dont mind the clocks going back....i just end up waking up at the same time anyways
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