| Is this wrong? Have the Democrats gone too far this time? |
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Republican_Man
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 Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:18 am Democrats are at it again. Political Terrorists? |
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| Quote: | UPDATE: Shots fired into Knox Bush/Cheney headquarters
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=20241 ^
Posted on 10/05/2004 8:57:51 AM PDT by mike182d
An unknown suspect fired several shots into the Bearden office of the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign Tuesday morning.
The headquarters are located at 4618 Kingston Pike, next to Noveau Classics and in the same shopping plaza as Long's Drugstore.
According to Knoxville Police Department (KPD) officers on the scene Tuesday, it is believed that the two separate shots were fired from a car sometime between 6:30 am and 7:15 am.
One shot shattered the glass in the front door and the other cracked the glass in another of the front doors.
There were no witnesses to the shooting. A customer at a nearby dry cleaning store noticed shattered glass on the sidewalk in front of the headquarters and called police.
Volunteers and staffers at the campaign office say they have no clues as to who might have committed the crime. However, they add that the shooting makes them even more enthusiastic and energized about working for their candidates.
"If I have to sleep here (at the campaign office) now, that's what I'll do," says volunteer Suzanne Dewar.
In an unexpected twist, a bank directly across the street from the headquarters was robbed just as KPD officers were busy investigating at the scene of the shooting. |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235838/posts
But that's not all.
On Friday on my ride home from school, a man called in to Hannity and stated this, something that Hannity was going to talk about:
1. People broke into the Bush/Cheney '04 Florida and Tennessee Headquarters.
2. They drew Nazi Swasticas over Bush pictures and Hitler beards over Bush pictures, and destroyed multitudes of other Bush equipment.
I mean, COME ON! Looking at this stuff, PLUS what many did at the Republican Convention, TOO MANY of these people have gone wacko! This stuff is HORRIBLE!
What say you, Democrats (aimed at Defiant)?
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:26 am |
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This is a quote from someone from the Hannity Message Boards.
It makes you think.
| Quote: | Its like a little kid that watches his friend on the beach make a neat looking sandcastle. Just before his friends parents get there to look at it... he tries to knock his friends castle down so he wont get praise from his parents.
The kid who built the sand castle - Republican
The kid who knocked it down - Democrat
The parents - U.S. Citizens.
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Puck
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:36 am |
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I voted no. This is just probably one or two people, and we need to keep in mind that not all Democrats have there bricks at hand waiting to smash in the windows of any BushCheney'04 headquarters. Such a peice of propaganda we have here. 
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:40 am |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | I voted no. This is just probably one or two people, and we need to keep in mind that not all Democrats have there bricks at hand waiting to smash in the windows of any BushCheney'04 headquarters. Such a peice of propaganda we have here. |
No, you're right. I do NOT think that it's all--probably just a small fraction. However, I DO think that they've gone too far.
Btw, it was around 8 people that broke into the Florida headquarters with the swastica deal, I believe, and the Tennessee probably won't be too different.
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Puck
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:42 am |
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Well yeah, I don't want to give the impression that I think going around shooting up politcial campaign headquarters is ok or anything, naturally it isn't. 
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D_Star
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:43 am |
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Just because some people did these things doesn't make them = Democrats.
In other words, All people against republicans = all democrats is false.
Lastly I wouldn't really trust anything from Free Republic, sure they just comment on news stories etc, but they are hugely biased.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:45 am |
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| D_Star wrote: | Just because some people did these things doesn't make them = Democrats.
In other words, All people against republicans = all democrats is false.
Lastly I wouldn't really trust anything from Free Republic, sure they just comment on news stories etc, but they are hugely biased. |
1. They WERE Democrats.
2. No.
3. I would trust this case. I heard it commented on Hannity's show along with the Tennessee break-in, and that had some factual backing. (All did)
--EDIT--
PLUS, they GAVE YOU THE SOURCE!
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=20241
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:47 am |
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To quote their source:
| Quote: | An unknown suspect fired multiple shots into the Bearden office of the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign Tuesday morning.
The headquarters are located at 4618 Kingston Pike, between Nouveau Classics and Lenny's submarine sandwich shop in the same shopping plaza as Long's Drugstore.
According to Knoxville Police Department (KPD) officers on the scene Tuesday, it is believed that the two separate shots were fired from a car sometime between 6:30 am and 7:15 am.
One shot shattered the glass in the front door and the other cracked the glass in another of the front doors.
Bush-Cheney volunteer campaign coordinator Suzanne Dewar says she originally planned to be in the office early Tuesday morning.
"If I had gotten here a couple hours earlier, I'd have been inside," Dewar explains. "And we don't turn the lights on until we open, so they wouldn't have know someone was inside."
There were no witnesses to the shooting. A customer at a nearby dry cleaning store noticed shattered glass on the sidewalk in front of the headquarters and informed an employee in the cleaner's, who then called police.
Volunteers and staffers at the campaign office say they have no clues as to who might have committed the crime. However, they add that the shooting makes them even more enthusiastic about working for their candidates.
"If anything, they've energized us," Dewar says. "Thank you. Not thank you for shooting at us, but, nothing's gonna slow us down."
Dewar says she can't imagine why someone would fire shots into an office where people could have been injured or killed.
"I don't even know what to say to the person that did this," Dewar says. "...Get a life. This is ridiculous."
Bush/Cheney volunteer Jo Catlett says the incident hasn't fazed her.
"I just don't feel like I have to be nervous," says Catlett. "I mean, I just believe in God and that He'll take care of me, so I don't worry about that."
In an unexpected twist, a bank directly across the street from the headquarters was robbed as KPD officers were busy investigating at the scene of the shooting.
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(And it's a local news station.)
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D_Star
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:48 am |
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| Quote: | 1. They WERE Democrats.
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Sure?
| Quote: | | An unknown suspect fired... |
| Quote: | | There were no witnesses to the shooting... |
| Quote: | | Volunteers and staffers at the campaign office say they have no clues as to who might have committed the crime. |
How do they know that democrats did it?
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:49 am |
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Okay, so I don't
But I'm sure it is--they're the only logical people to do such a thing.
But don't not trust the source.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:51 am |
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PLUS THEY did the break-ins, and THEY did the horrible things at those protests.
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D_Star
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:52 am |
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Ok I trust the source as it is a local news station, but I said I don't trust Free Republic.
Really I try to look at everything objectively. CBS have shown us that Media in the US sucks. I trust really no one. The internet is better cause you can search so many news sites on google news, rather than hearing/seeing the canned AP news stories.
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D_Star
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:53 am |
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Right but the protesters were a bunch of whacko communists and activists. Some who hate Democrats as much as republicans. They were protesting here in Boston for the DNC remember? I wouldn't call them Democrats.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:56 am |
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| Quote: | | Right but the protesters were a bunch of whacko communists and activists. Some who hate Democrats as much as republicans. They were protesting here in Boston for the DNC remember? I wouldn't call them Democrats. |
1. Yes, some sure, but MOST were Dems.
2. HARDLY--and the Republicans did NOTHING like the Dems did at the RNC. They didn't start a fire and fight police officers who tried to stop it. They didn't almost kill an officer. Hundreds of Republicans weren't arrested. I mean, come on!
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:58 am |
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Now, I could be wrong with some of these cases being Democrats, I'll give you that, but it's just logical to assume that.
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:13 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Quote: | | Right but the protesters were a bunch of whacko communists and activists. Some who hate Democrats as much as republicans. They were protesting here in Boston for the DNC remember? I wouldn't call them Democrats. |
1. Yes, some sure, but MOST were Dems.
2. HARDLY--and the Republicans did NOTHING like the Dems did at the RNC. They didn't start a fire and fight police officers who tried to stop it. They didn't almost kill an officer. Hundreds of Republicans weren't arrested. I mean, come on! |
The republicans didnt start a fire. It was some whacko fringe group (I live here remember)
There were only 2 republican groups here protesting a "choose life" group and "Veitnam Veterans against John Kerry"
At the RNC in New York there was A.N.S.W.E.R. and the I.A.C. and countless others + a bunch more fringe whackos. So naturally there would be more arrests. Before the RNC even began there were more than 3 times the arrests there than there were here.
I just dont think its fair to paint Democrats with a poop brush when in fact we don't know who did these acts. It isn't even safe to assume that democrats were behind it.
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:56 pm |
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I think it's horrible what happened, and I would be pretty certain that it would be dems, or Kerry-supporters. Where I live, 89 cars have been vandalized because of having Bush/Cheney bumper stickers on their cars. (Last number I heard) The Dems have them ALL OVER the place. Our local Republican Headquarters got rocks thrown through the windows. Coincidence? No.
Not saying that there aren't probably some freak-repubs out there. (Haven't met them, but hey, must be fair...somewhat...) Any way you cut it, destroying property because of political alignment, no matter what party you're representing, is wrong.
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Defiant
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:05 pm |
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Are you *beep* kidding me?
You cant blame this on the democrats. This is just some random dumbasses who decided to do something stupid. There is absolutely no proof that democrats did this.
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:08 pm |
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Now Democrats are resorting to crazy terrorist tactics. Whats next? cutting Republican's heads off?
I agree that the majority of these people are probably just STRONG Bush haters, not exactly Democrats. Although some were. People have always put this stupid view that Bush=Hitler. Any President that goes to War = Hitler now I guess.
Great way to prove your point. Vandalize a building. I really want to support people agains Bush now....
Who the hell voted no!? Some people here think that this was ok!?
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:12 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | I agree that the majority of these people are probably just STRONG Bush haters, not exactly Democrats. Although some were. |
Oh excuse me, I didnt see your proof.
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:18 pm |
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| Defiant wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | I agree that the majority of these people are probably just STRONG Bush haters, not exactly Democrats. Although some were. |
Oh excuse me, I didnt see your proof. |
The news is my proof. I think we all remember the RNC. The Democrats were really civil in their march.
A lady went to a speech Bush made and made this big show about her son dieing in Iraq. They had to arrest her. I saw countless Bush speeches where a crazy Democrats has to make a statement which ends with his arrest.
Democrats constantly say that Bush=Hitler. Its kinda obvious who did this.
Oh wait it must have been crazy communists. Yeah because we always hear about Communists doing this....
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Defiant
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:37 pm |
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They may be democratic in their voting affiliation, but they have absolutely no tie to the Democratic Party. Theyre just random US citizens who are being dumbasses.
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:42 pm |
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| Defiant wrote: | | They may be democratic in their voting affiliation, but they have absolutely no tie to the Democratic Party. Theyre just random US citizens who are being dumbasses. |
I agree. I didn't say this was a group of people working for Kerry. Im saying they were Democratic voters. Now do they have ties to the party, as in literally working for Kerry? Probably not.
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Puck
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:44 pm |
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Remember that we don't even know who did this, but yet, all of you except Defiant and D_star seem perfectly ready to point out that it was a democrat. Sheesh I don't care how likely it was that it might be democrats, yall make it sound like all democrats are resorting to terrorism all of the sudden. Soooo much propaganda and this is just sad.
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D_Star
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| Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:47 pm |
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Right...
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