| Who do you think won the first Presidential debate? |
| President George W. Bush |
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17% |
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| Senator John Kerry |
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64% |
[ 11 ] |
| They were evenly matched |
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17% |
[ 3 ] |
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| Total Votes : 17 |
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borgslayer
Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
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Location: Las Vegas
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 Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:59 pm |
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Kerry clearly won because he pointed out every mistake made by Bush using actual proof.
And if you watch Bushs face you can tell he did not want to hear anything that was coming out of Kerry mouth because the truth of many issues like the war in Iraq was I as I would say "embrassing for the record"
As Kerry says "How can you say things are getting better when the death toll of American Soldiers keep rising every month in Iraq." (Not exact but close to it)
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 4425
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:41 pm |
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| borgslayer wrote: | Kerry clearly won because he pointed out every mistake made by Bush using actual proof.
And if you watch Bushs face you can tell he did not want to hear anything that was coming out of Kerry mouth because the truth of many issues like the war in Iraq was I as I would say "embrassing for the record"
As Kerry says "How can you say things are getting better when the death toll of American Soldiers keep rising every month in Iraq." (Not exact but close to it) |
Okay, no offense to soldiers. You can bet I honor thier memory as much as anyone ese. But you consider that in Vietnam (...or was it Korea? ...don't hold me to which country...) we lost 5,000 soldiers a year. We're doing pretty well on that front. Any loss of life is cause for mourning. But that's war.
"The truth" was not necessarily the truth. Nor were Kerry's recomendations necessarily good choices. A man on Fox news (Again, don't catch me on names, here!  ) said, "Kerry had a deep argument, but it was deeply incorrect." (Or something to that effect) And I don't know why people jump on facial expressions like that. It's understandable. So, he's agravated with Kerry. So'm I.
And what proof? What exactly did he point out? He saw the same intelligence Bush did, he voted in support of the war (When it suited his political purposes). I WISH Bush would have pointed out more clearly that with all Kerry's back-and-forth on what was right or wrong that you CANNOT make those kind of mistakes and changes of judgement while being president! If Kerry wanted to show what a strong president he would be, he should have voted that way. Let us be glad he is one senator of a hundred.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 14823
Location: Classified
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| Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:28 pm |
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| Exalya wrote: | | borgslayer wrote: | Kerry clearly won because he pointed out every mistake made by Bush using actual proof.
And if you watch Bushs face you can tell he did not want to hear anything that was coming out of Kerry mouth because the truth of many issues like the war in Iraq was I as I would say "embrassing for the record"
As Kerry says "How can you say things are getting better when the death toll of American Soldiers keep rising every month in Iraq." (Not exact but close to it) |
Okay, no offense to soldiers. You can bet I honor thier memory as much as anyone ese. But you consider that in Vietnam (...or was it Korea? ...don't hold me to which country...) we lost 5,000 soldiers a year. We're doing pretty well on that front. Any loss of life is cause for mourning. But that's war.
"The truth" was not necessarily the truth. Nor were Kerry's recomendations necessarily good choices. A man on Fox news (Again, don't catch me on names, here! ) said, "Kerry had a deep argument, but it was deeply incorrect." (Or something to that effect) And I don't know why people jump on facial expressions like that. It's understandable. So, he's agravated with Kerry. So'm I.
And what proof? What exactly did he point out? He saw the same intelligence Bush did, he voted in support of the war (When it suited his political purposes). I WISH Bush would have pointed out more clearly that with all Kerry's back-and-forth on what was right or wrong that you CANNOT make those kind of mistakes and changes of judgement while being president! If Kerry wanted to show what a strong president he would be, he should have voted that way. Let us be glad he is one senator of a hundred. |
EXACTLY. I couldn't have said it better myself. And Kerry was SO misleading, too.
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Kyre
Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002
Posts: 1263
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| Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:24 am |
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| charmed88 wrote: | | Kyre wrote: | | Elections are all about style, and that's it. Tony Blair promised the banning of fox hunting with dogs, in the run up to the 1997 General Election. He became Prime Minister, not solely due to that promise, but I digress. It is now 2004 and fox hunting with dogs is still legal. |
There have been several votes in the commons pushing this through but it keeps getting rejected by the unelected house of lords. Blame the lord not blair for it still being legal |
If Blair had really wanted it passed as quickly as he made out, he would have used the power that the Commons has over the Lords to get it through.
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borgslayer
Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Posts: 2646
Location: Las Vegas
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| Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:27 pm |
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Bah! Whats up with this campaign?
When Democrats are telling the truth the Republicans are all the sudden calling actual facts misleading.
When Republicans are telling some truth to a story all of the Democrats are calling in Smear Campaign.
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