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Theresa
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 Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:20 pm Draft-dodger monument ignites rage among vets |
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| Quote: | Americans beg Bush to oppose tribute to 'cowards' who fled
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Posted: September 26, 2004
8:45 p.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs
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� 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Plans to build a memorial to draft-dodgers from the Vietnam War is sparking outrage from American veterans, and President Bush is being urged to oppose the project.
A private Canadian group is sponsoring the bronze monument, which is slated for display in Nelson, British Columbia, in the summer of 2006.
"This will mark the courageous legacy of Vietnam War resisters and the Canadians who helped them resettle in this country during that tumultuous era," said Isaac Romano, director of Our Way Home.
Now, the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S. is hoping President Bush will get involved and express displeasure to Canadian officials.
"We urge the President and Congress to do whatever is necessary to communicate to the Canadian government that this exercise of free expression is an absolute slap in the face to every man and woman who ever served in uniform ... both in our military and theirs," said John Furgess, the national commander of the VFW.
He says the VFW fully supports freedom of expression and the arts, "But to honor draft-dodgers, deserters, people who brought grief to the families they left behind and anguish to those American men who took their place, is an abomination. You can say what you want about the war � we all did and some still do � but do not dishonor the warrior by memorializing cowards."
Dennis Klein, a sculptor and teacher at Kootenay School of the Arts, and artist Naomi Lewis reportedly have been selected to design and construct the monument, depicting Canadians embracing the hands of American war opponents.
Ordinary citizens are also blasting the project, posting comments on the city of Nelson's community bulletin board.
"I will make sure I don't spend another cent in Canada. Why don't you chai-sipping libs do something constructive? Pathetic." (John Cislo, Grosse Pointe Farms, Mich.)
"This disrespects all of those who made the ultimate sacrifice while serving in the United States Armed Forces. It dishonors the service of all American veterans and will bring shame upon your community. This reopens old wounds that will probably never heal. I have traveled to British Columbia. I have a daughter who lives in Edmonton, Alberta. Be assured that if your community builds this disgraceful monument, I will never again travel to B.C., your city, and most likely your country." (William P. Schettino, Jr., Austin, Texas)
Some remain supportive of the idea.
"My view of the whole event/monument was not so much to honor the war resisters, rather to honor the Canadians for lending a helping hand during a time of an illegal, immoral and undeclared war. The resisters do not need honoring any more then the vets need honoring. I thought the Canadian [government] did the right thing in dealing with those 125,000 leaving the U.S. at that time. This opportunity for Canada to do the right thing could well be just a few years away again." (Michael Donner, Canada)
Organizers from Our Way Home say despite the hot rhetoric, they're not backing away from their plans, which also include a concert and a host of speeches by members of the anti-war movement.
It's been estimated some 125,000 Americans fled to Canada during the Vietnam War to avoid the U.S. draft. About half returned to the U.S. when President Jimmy Carter granted them amnesty in 1977.
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Joe Kovacs is executive news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.
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Ronevick
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Ugh...this is sad, just sad. We build a memorial for those who served in Vietnam and deserved it, but then someone else goes and builds one for those who abandoned the United States just because times got tough? Talk about a waste of time. This just ticks me off.
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Puck
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:26 pm |
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| Quote: | | "My view of the whole event/monument was not so much to honor the war resisters, rather to honor the Canadians for lending a helping hand during a time of an illegal, immoral and undeclared war. The resisters do not need honoring any more then the vets need honoring. I thought the Canadian [government] did the right thing in dealing with those 125,000 leaving the U.S. at that time. This opportunity for Canada to do the right thing could well be just a few years away again." |
Hmmm let us break this down shall we?
| Quote: | | "My view of the whole event/monument was not so much to honor the war resisters, rather to honor the Canadians for lending a helping hand during a time of an illegal, immoral and undeclared war. |
Ok. So they were interferring in US law, and actually helping American's break the law, and yet they speak of an illegal war. I detect just a bit of hypocrisy in that.
| Quote: | | The resisters do not need honoring any more then the vets need honoring. |
Well most people usually agree that breaking the law is practically always unworthy of honor. However, people do actually (suprise suprise  ) find it honorable for people to not run away from serving there country, and actually having the courage to fight for it. Either way he got it wrong by implying equality between them. The vets deserve more honor, and the draft dodgers deserve none.
| Quote: | | I thought the Canadian [government] did the right thing in dealing with those 125,000 leaving the U.S. at that time. |
Interesting that we keep coming back to the fact that the Canadian government helping in illegal acts is actually a good thing...
| Quote: | | This opportunity for Canada to do the right thing could well be just a few years away again. |
If you have something to say, have the guts to come out and say, I am not into people beating around the bush.
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| Quote: | This will mark the courageous legacy of Vietnam War resisters and the Canadians who helped them resettle in this country during that tumultuous era," said Isaac Romano, director of Our Way Home.
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Courageous legacy of Vietnam War resisters? Excuse me, but since when has running away from your country in this manner been courageous? 
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Sounds like this is really just being built so the Canadians can say "Hey look what we did! We helped in a just caused!" Tssss, such *beep*. Ugh, that is just pathetic. Why don't we just build a nice big monument on the Canadian border giving them the finger, it might, if we were lucky be able to be the equivilant of this. (Alllll I am saying is that them building that statue would be like if we built my imaginary "give Canada the finger statue". Nothing against Canadians...it was just an analogy Dan.  )
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:41 pm |
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| Ronevick wrote: | | Ugh...this is sad, just sad. We build a memorial for those who served in Vietnam and deserved it, but then someone else goes and builds one for those who abandoned the United States just because times got tough? Talk about a waste of time. This just ticks me off. |
EXACTLY.
| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Quote: | | "My view of the whole event/monument was not so much to honor the war resisters, rather to honor the Canadians for lending a helping hand during a time of an illegal, immoral and undeclared war. The resisters do not need honoring any more then the vets need honoring. I thought the Canadian [government] did the right thing in dealing with those 125,000 leaving the U.S. at that time. This opportunity for Canada to do the right thing could well be just a few years away again." |
Hmmm let us break this down shall we?
| Quote: | | "My view of the whole event/monument was not so much to honor the war resisters, rather to honor the Canadians for lending a helping hand during a time of an illegal, immoral and undeclared war. |
Ok. So they were interferring in US law, and actually helping American's break the law, and yet they speak of an illegal war. I detect just a bit of hypocrisy in that.
| Quote: | | The resisters do not need honoring any more then the vets need honoring. |
Well most people usually agree that breaking the law is practically always unworthy of honor. However, people do actually (suprise suprise ) find it honorable for people to not run away from serving there country, and actually having the courage to fight for it. Either way he got it wrong by implying equality between them. The vets deserve more honor, and the draft dodgers deserve none.
| Quote: | | I thought the Canadian [government] did the right thing in dealing with those 125,000 leaving the U.S. at that time. |
Interesting that we keep coming back to the fact that the Canadian government helping in illegal acts is actually a good thing...
| Quote: | | This opportunity for Canada to do the right thing could well be just a few years away again. |
If you have something to say, have the guts to come out and say, I am not into people beating around the bush.
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| Quote: | This will mark the courageous legacy of Vietnam War resisters and the Canadians who helped them resettle in this country during that tumultuous era," said Isaac Romano, director of Our Way Home.
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Courageous legacy of Vietnam War resisters? Excuse me, but since when has running away from your country in this manner been courageous?
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Sounds like this is really just being built so the Canadians can say "Hey look what we did! We helped in a just caused!" Tssss, such *beep*. Ugh, that is just pathetic. Why don't we just build a nice big monument on the Canadian border giving them the finger, it might, if we were lucky be able to be the equivilant of this. |
For lack of time, EXACTLY!
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LightningBoy
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ugh... Freaking losers. 
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