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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Valathous wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: |
EXACTLY! My gosh, Val, there have been SO MANY conspiracy theories and attacks on this President because so many people HATE him, that it's just--ugh! It doesn't make them true, because this song says it or Michael Moore says it... |
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I wouldn't be so quick to say that.  They're running off of anger...a lot, I believe, SIMPLY because it's a Republican president. Anger doesn't generally bear logical fruit. Which is UNBELIEVEABLY apparent where I live. I get bashed for saying I like Bush. Called evil, everything. Yet that's all they got. Call me evil. Say I'm awful. They don't even know me, my beliefs, or what the Republican party REALLY stands for. They don't even know why it's so bad, they just believe that it is. In my experience, anyhow.
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Hitchhiker
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:23 pm |
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The reason why Moore's film makes Bush and the Bush administration look so bad is because he only showed the bad side of America.
I'm serious. In everyday life, we look at both the good and bad. What Moore did, as any exposition writer does, is look at one side of the issue. This is helpful when trying to make a point, because from what I understand Fahrenheit 911 was fairly shocking.
But even if it makes a point, it is still one-sided. And because it is one-sided, it is looking at it from a black-or-white perspective. Moore said, "Okay, either this action by Bush was a good or bad thing. If it's good we don't mention it, if it's bad we put it in the film."
So Moore is like Bush, only the opposite. Both tend to skim over the grey areas and use one-perspective to strengthen their arguments.
Now I know someone will get mad at me for saying Bush and Moore are alike. They are alike in their ways of looking at things, not in their actions or their political opinions. They are mirrors, not twins.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:28 pm |
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| Hitchhiker wrote: | The reason why Moore's film makes Bush and the Bush administration look so bad is because he only showed the bad side of America.
I'm serious. In everyday life, we look at both the good and bad. What Moore did, as any exposition writer does, is look at one side of the issue. This is helpful when trying to make a point, because from what I understand Fahrenheit 911 was fairly shocking.
Not just that, my friend. He LIED. He told false things. The VAST majority of things in there has been DEBUNKED by the 9/11 commission and everything else, really.
But even if it makes a point, it is still one-sided. And because it is one-sided, it is looking at it from a black-or-white perspective. Moore said, "Okay, either this action by Bush was a good or bad thing. If it's good we don't mention it, if it's bad we put it in the film."
Yeah, sure, can't disagree with that, but as I said above: VIRTUALLY ALL has been proven false.
So Moore is like Bush, only the opposite. Both tend to skim over the grey areas and use one-perspective to strengthen their arguments.
Not true. And Moore, as I said twice above, doesn't look at that. He looks at ways to MORPH things and lie.
Now I know someone will get mad at me for saying Bush and Moore are alike. They are alike in their ways of looking at things, not in their actions or their political opinions. They are mirrors, not twins. |
Oh yes! They are COMPLETELY different! My gosh! They're way of looking at things is hardly even REMOTELY the same!
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Hitchhiker
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| Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:29 pm |
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I'm not saying that their perspectives are the same. I'm just saying that they both look at things as either black or white, right or wrong. And most of the time, what Bush thinks is right, Moore thinks is wrong . . .
Does that make more sense?
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:33 pm |
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| Hitchhiker wrote: | I'm not saying that their perspectives are the same. I'm just saying that they both look at things as either black or white, right or wrong. And most of the time, what Bush thinks is right, Moore thinks is wrong . . .
Does that make more sense? |
No, they don't. Bush sees good and evil, but everything else has this 'gray' area.
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