Union Vs Confederacy

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:28 pm Union Vs Confederacy**

Yep its off topic all right... Vote for your side and tell us why you like that side so much... BTW can u tell which side im for.

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:15 pm**

The Union. Slavery is rather disgusting, and if we let the south leave, they'd have kept it for who knows how long. Maybe even up until today.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

The Union. Seems dumb to me that anyone would want to break away from the United States...how silly.

Arellia · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:26 pm**

I argree with Aaron. Slavery is disgusting. Not to mention unnecessary.

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:33 pm**

Ok y'all do know that the war was fought over States rights not just slavery right? And you do know that the slaves that werent free fouoght with the south of their own free will?

Sam Kenobi · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:38 pm**

seriously, guys... look at your history books more! slavery was disgusting, but if you look at the statistics, only about 1/4 of the southern families owned slaves. Of that 1/4, only about 5% of those had large plantations of slaves. The others had 1-3 slaves, maybe, if they could afford it, and often times, those were the ones who were almost part of the family.

Anyway, look at the labor in the Union at the time. women and children were working in factories for less than spit, and their living was about as up to par as the slaves in the south. All around, the 1860s were not a very comfortable situation for anyone to live.

You want to get on the South for slavery, get on Texas. They're the ones who went against all law just so they could senalk slavery into their state.

Abolition of slavery didn't come about as a "main factor" in the war until about three years after it had begun. Most people in the North, even if they did care about slavery (which most were just as prejudice against the blacks as the south was), were anti-slaveryites (just opposed to the continuation of the slave trade, but they were fine with slavery in the south as it was).

So, see, I don't really put slavery into account to sway me either way.

There was a lot more to the Civil War.

GhostOfAMemory · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:41 pm**

The point is the north wanted to abolish slavery and the south wanted to keep it around *generally* therefore I side with he north. I don't know a whole lot about the other details of the war.

Sam Kenobi · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:42 pm**

as for me, I'd of been living in the west. Colorado only had 2 union troops, and one no one has ever heard of, and the other one just pillaged and slaughtered a group of Indians. so... I think I'd of been out of the game for the whole war hooey.

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:43 pm**

Exactly. TY.

We fought to stop the Union from constantly changing laws. Did you know that the state flag is supposed to be flown on the top of flag poles and the national under it. Due to the fact that States are suppoed to have more power than the government. Did you know that the Yankees burned homes and crops of the rebels and raped our women and killed men women and children?

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:45 pm**

^So did the confederate soldiers...

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:48 pm**

I know that slavery didn't become an issue until after the war started. But then again, if the war hadn't happend, the south could still maybe have slaves. I don't really care about how many families did or didn't have slaves. If there was only one slave in the south, it would still be worth going to war for their freedom, IMO.

And yes, we all know about Sherman's march to the sea. That's war. At least he saved the only nice city,

And as T said, the South did the same sick things to the North. That's war, especially in the 1800s.

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:28 pm**

slaves were treated (in most cases) just like a part of the family. and like i said the war was fought over slaves rights. In a way the South is slave to the Union

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:35 pm**

A gilded cage is still a cage. Many would rather be free and poor, than "treated like family", and property.
And no, the south isn't a "slave to the Union". Unless, of course, you have access to some information hidden to the rest of us?

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:38 pm**

im in the military and have more info than civilians. and yes they are. you cant keep changing the laws just cuz you dont like it. Washington must be spinning and flipping in his grave.

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:41 pm**

Congratulations on being in the military. I'm set to enter the Navy shortly myself. My whole family is Navy. Yet, suspiciously, they don't have access to this "information". Do they only give it to southern service members?

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:42 pm**

ha ha ha. im in communications. i can tap phone lines.

Defiant · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:44 pm**

The winners write the history books. We dont know the real story.

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:45 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:57 pm**

The Union, of course.
1st, it had Lincoln, the first Republican President

No, seriously, slavery is HORRIBLE. It HAD to be stopped.

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:02 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:09 pm**

CaptianCircuitGod · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:10 pm**

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:12 pm**

Calming yourself may be a good idea, RM. And since M has made it so incredibly easy to use bold and italics here at STV, I'm going to ask that you try to do so. CAPS have always been equated to yelling. And when it seems you are yelling, people are less likely to listen.

Theresa · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:13 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:15 pm**