American Idiot?

Oliver · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:01 am**

Freedom fries? What are those?

superwoman · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:19 am**

french fries... i don't know why they call them fredom fries it has something to do with.. something

I can't remember
Anyway why do the call it french fries? It's not like it was the french who came up with it

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:13 am**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:15 am**

Well well well....... You hate it when people are hatefull towards american, but the second they talking about being hatefull to France, you jump on it.... You can't have it both ways RM.

You're arguing that it's not alright to make fun of America, but it is ok to make fun of France. That's low.......

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 am**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:28 am**

A) Yes it is. It's a subtle attack on France.
B) No one does. So how do you think the users from France will feel if they see what you typed?
C) France didn't make that song, an American citizen did. And how would you know if there were songs like that in France or not? Do you lice there? Are you fluent in French? Or maybe they don't. Maybe the people in France actually like their government. (Remember, Green Day is American)
D) Change whatever name you want, as long as it isn't an attack on another country. How has France attacked you? How have they shown intense dislike?
E) If you're gonna spout off all that stuff... Go dismantle the Statue of Liberty, as that was a gift from France... Or maybe just change it's name to "The Statue of Freedom"

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:39 am**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:48 am**

A) The tiniest bit? Ok

. It was more of an attack than "Redneck agenda" IMO.
B)Didn't you? "Oh look at how much they hate us, France is always attacking us... blah blah blah blah." How do you not see that as even the slightest attack? I know if I was from France, I'd feel offended.
C) Then if you know France didn't make it, why bring up that they don't have songs like that playing? Seems like a useless point to me that you just put to make it seem like you had a stronger argument.
D) No, remember. Us unprivaledged Canadians are banned from watching any of your news.

. And again. Do you live in France? Do you know many or most French people? No. Invalid point again.
E) So there's a difference between the country just because you think they are just a "friend"? They still gave it to you as a gift.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:55 am**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:01 pm**

A) Yes it is!
B) Hmm. Another insult added to the list against France. Good work RM. You're now a foot closer to your grave.
C) Defiant somewhat started it. But you mentioned that France doesn't have songs like that. If you are going to debate, at least remember your own points.
D) Thank God. I'm saved from your propoganda

. And that was a subtle attack on Canada about "Oh we won't censor out France." There's 2 countries added to the list that you've attacked but for some reason no one can attack America. (And yes, I did trap you into that one? Fun eh?)
E) They have changed, and so has America.....

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:07 pm**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:12 pm**

A) Yes it was

(This one's gonna go back and forth for a few hours

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B)No? Great answer. A boycott France bumper sticker isn't an attack?
C)Then why did you even bring it up in the first place? Great they don't have the song. Lets move aling.
D) Not attacking France? Maybe you should reread a few of your posts.... "France all hates us, they are always attacking us! I support Freedom fries! They keep changing for the worst! I'm buying a boycott France bumper sticker."
E) Ahh, the all great America not changing as bad as France eh? You're the country with all the murders, going to war with countries and such, while France says "No, lets not go to war." Wow. They really took a turn for the worst eh?

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:18 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:22 pm**

I can't see how you can say that almost all of France hates us and that they're mostly jerks. That's kind of offensive, seeing as you haven't even been there (I presume).

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:24 pm**

Valathous · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:26 pm**

A) Yes it was!
B) Then what is an attack? How about I buy a bumper sticker than says "Shoot Americans on sight". Would that be an attack?
C) He brought up the France thing. You brought up that France doesn't have the song.
D) Jerks. Another attack. Those other comments were attacks on the country, no matter how you look at them (Except from the RM point of view). And you know what I say? EVERYONE GO BUY GREEN DAY'S CD!
E) In a country were 16 000 gun related murders is the lowest ever, houw is it so much better and taking a better turn than France? Oh so your Northern neighbours aren't allies? We helped you in Afghanistan and try to have free trade with you (Until you tariffed out lumber).
Go ahead. Buy a book that insults other countries by saying that they are all insulting america. But while you're in the book store, I'lll be in the music store picking up Green Day's CD.

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:26 pm**

Okay, they don't like us, I still don't see how you or she can say that. The government may not like us, but the entire french people? Seems rather bold.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:55 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:58 pm**

How lucky you are to have some special ESP powers that nobody else does,

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:59 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:02 pm**

That you just know how everyone in all of France feels about the US,

But, as you said, let's stop.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:03 pm**

Thomas · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:08 pm**

So what are you talking about? You must mean at least 50% of the French population... I just don't see how you can make a claim like that. You do not speak for the citizens of France.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:10 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:13 pm**

And I concede that the Jerks comment was an attack because in the song