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m021 Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 218
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Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:05 am |
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Hyper wrote: | beyond lightspeed...E=MC� people!! |
There's no proof for that theorem. Einstein could've been wrong.
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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kmma wrote: | Anything is possible. Look what has scientist done so far. In the 60's there was no cds but they talked about it. And look we have cds and dvds. So scientist probably will discovery to create a phaser probably. |
You're actuall very right, anything is possible. It is actually possible, for you to put your hand through a wall. Its all quantum physics you see, which is nothing like physics!
I have no doubt that they will create something similar to a phaser.
m021, No, there is no proof for relativity, if there was we'd need to travel at speeds approaching light speed to see what happened. However, if you compare it to something like air resistance (or any type of fluid for that matter) the drag increases exponentially with velocity of the body within the medium. Besides, they can even go light speed in Trek, so it must be true!
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m021 Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 218
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Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:32 am |
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I don't get your last sentence. Do you mean relativity must be true, or do you mean the opposite?
Surely in Trek they use the that theorem (that's why they use a Warp Field) but who says they're right? They have no more knowledge of that than we do...
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DeltasVoyager Captain
Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 762 Location: Where no one has been before!
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Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:41 am |
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well we do have laser, but they cant harm you
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Mustkillbret Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 2945 Location: Here and There, Mostly There
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Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:20 am |
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yes they can!! if they focus it right it can cut through metals, in laser eye surgery, the cut through the lens on your eye and operate by firing laser beams into your eye!!
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:19 pm |
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There are pretty mean lasers out there that are easily capable of killing people, even destroying missiles. I used to work in the sircraft industry and lasers were used to drill fine holes in panels.
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:15 pm |
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If anything is possible, try slamming a revolving door.
The problem with lasers is efficiency(most have less than 2%). The free electron laser with a superconducting accelerator has reached nearly 60% and could theoretically acheive 90-95% (and it's tunable, too!).
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voyager123456789 Lieutenant
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 175 Location: Alpha Quardrant
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Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:25 am |
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Its almost impossible. jk.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:03 pm |
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Hyper wrote: | There are pretty mean lasers out there that are easily capable of killing people, even destroying missiles. I used to work in the sircraft industry and lasers were used to drill fine holes in panels. |
ya those lasers are used to cut steel and metal but those are way to big for you the hold.
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gul Lemek III. Commodore
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 1513 Location: Slovenia
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:17 am |
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Maby someday, yes. But I'm almost 100% sure none of us will live to see it.
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:12 am |
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Hyper wrote: | Besides, they can even go light speed in Trek, so it must be true! |
Actually, they can�t. There is no Starfleet ship able to travel above c(lightspeed). They only seem to do so, but they actually deform spacetime in such a way that they are, when seen from a distance, pulled/pushed forward. That�s the trick fitting warpdrive into e=mc�.
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:41 pm |
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Actually they already have created a real Phaser (Photonic Laser). I just watched a really cool documentary, on the Discovery Channel, about it and the beam is a really cool pinkish purple! They are planning on mounting them in the noses of jumbo jets and using them to shoot down enemy missiles. They showed a really cool test where they cut a hole in a piece of glass to show the difference between a Laser and a Phaser, a normal laser would normally go right through transparent things like glass without harming it because it�s just light but a Phaser is a lot more than that.
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:59 pm |
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We built a measely 100W CO2 laser. It had in invisible (10.6 um) beam and it would shatter glass. Get your facts straight.
Any material has what is called an absorption spectrum, which indicates what percentage of a given amount of "light" (or EM energy in general) it will absorb at different frequencies. No material is completely transparent ant any frequency; it will absorb some of the applied energy. Also, every material has at least one (and usually many) frequencies at which it will absorb nearly all the applied energy.
The real key to using laser power is to match the laser's frequency to the target material. Obviously , normal "window" glass is made to pass energy in the visible spectrum (duh!), but it absorbs strongly in the IR and far UV.
The proposed Airborne Laser System uses an IR frequency which goes through air (and to a lesser degree, water vapor) but is strongly absorbed by most metals and composite materials.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:04 pm |
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thats kinda cool a laser that can blow a missle
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:29 am |
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It helps that the missile is full of explosive propellants.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:56 pm |
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for example what if the missle were to create a shockwave and if and i stress IF it hit the plane what would happen?
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:02 pm |
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It can shoot down a missile form hundreds of miles away.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:09 pm |
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ooo that would make alot more sense
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:14 am |
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Actually, the ABL is designed as a "Theater Defense System", meaning that it protects a given "battle space". It targets short- to medium-range "theater ballistic missiles" like the SCUD. It is NOT intended to hit ICMBs. It is also intended to aquire and hit missiles so quickly that they are exploded during their boost phase, when they are closer to the launch point than the intended target.
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:14 am |
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Yes, very far away.
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Security Chief Lieutenant
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 162 Location: USS Majestic
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:24 am |
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I like your idea of the phaser!
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:22 pm One more time........... |
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Can anyone state what it is that a phaser emits or generates without resorting to Treknobabble?
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:46 am |
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whats a treknobable?
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:05 am |
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starnova wrote: | whats a treknobable? |
all kinds of "technological" and "scientific" nonsense from Star Trek. Thou most of it is pretty right if u check it.
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