Bush/Cheney '04

Security Chief · **Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:58 pm**

If I were old enough this is who I'd vote for

Toad · **Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:19 pm**

Theresa · **Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:31 pm**

Got me at first, too.
Look at the topic name,

Toad · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:16 am**

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:06 am**

Theresa · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:31 am**

RM, I'm not even sure where Kyre is from. England? I know Danni is, and Thomas is from Wales. Captain Dappet, Oliver, etc... are Europeans. I can't recall excactly where they are from. The point is that trying to have me say exactly where they are in a massive continent, when naming the continent will do, is very nitpicky. If I, being from the USA, on the continent of America, am an American, then they being on the continent of Europe, are Europeans. (Excepting those in the UK, naturally.)

And Security Cheif wasn't very clear as to whom she would vote for, but the message was there. You'll notice she didn't make that post in the Kerry/Edwards topic... She probably just clicked the topic title, didn't read anything, and made her post.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:10 pm**

Perhaps...

Kylon · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:43 pm**

Just to let yall know, I'm not a republican, but I used to be.

Bush changed all that.

I don't know if this is bashing or Not, but you have to admit, there has been alot more bashing from the Repubs than from the liberals.

I am doing a little evening out.

If your a liberal democrat American, just remember, your not alone. George Bush didn't win the popular election last time. He won by voter apathy.

Seven reasons I dislike Bush:

1. Get's everyone to rally behind him because he's the commander and chief in this urgent time of war, which he was the cause of.

2. Lied to the American people about WMD.

2. Lower's taxes for the rich, who already have a huge some of money, and who got their money off of the backs of the poor.

3. Cut's social services, time and time again(To let it be known, and for the sake of showing personal bias, I am disabled.)

4. Pretends to be Christian, while giving us a bad name.

5. Disregards every other nation on the planet(not a bad move in the shortrun, but someday America won't be as strong as we are now).

6. Disregards the environment, the budget, education, medicare, the national deficiet, and anti-monoply laws.

7. Makes us look like the dumbest people on the face of the earth(well he does).

YES, I AM AMERICAN.

I AM UNDERAGE(17), BUT I WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE SOON.

NOTE: I DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF LIBERALS.

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:55 pm**

Every president get's people to rally behind them,

That's sorta in the job description: support.

Bush didn't KNOWINGLY lie about WMD. All the intel (and not just our own) showed that Iraq seemed to have WMD. Not to mention we've found components of WMD.

Lowers taxes on the rich. That I don't have a problem with. Do you even realize how hard you have to work to maintain a job in which you make a large salary? It just blows my mind how people can make it seem like rich people are just rich. You have to work at it, unless you inherited. And not all people who are rich "get their money off of the backs of the poor". There are jobs that don't require anything of that kind,

I don't really know anything about social services, so I can't exactly comment.

I don't see how he "pretends" to be Christian. He seems to apply most Christianity to his work. He doesn't agree with abortions or gay marriage.

What do you mean by "disregards every nation on the planet"? Because he didn't bother with UN on invading Iraq?

I don't see how he makes us look "dumb". He seems to me to show that he's a strong leader of a strong nation. He clearly follows the will of the people. So you're pretty much making yourself look "dumb" (if that's your opinion).

Kylon · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:35 pm**

1. I just don't think it's honorable to start a war(or prepetuate one), and then use that as an excuse why you should stay in power.

Analogy-

If we were on a ship, and I was the only one who could repair, or operate the ship when damaged, and then I damaged the ship, would it be honorable for me to use that as justification for why I should be in charge? Not saying it isn't logical, but it certainly isn't honorable.

2. I might be able to agree with you on that fact. However, George Bush didn't consult anyone outside of his staff(such as foreign experts who had more information on Iraq) about whether Iraq had Nukes or not. Maybe because he wanted to keep it "Secret" or "Classified", however, when the stakes are war, he should have done a little more research, before sending soldiers and knowing their would be some casualities.

3. I know rich people, and alot of them simply use money to make more money. I agree there are people who work their tail off to make alot of money, and deserve every penny of it, i.e my dad. However, I also know that alot of big money is made by big minipulation, i.e Brown and Root, otherwise known as Haliburton. Another good example of this is Donald Trump. Donald Trump got his money by buying very expensive buildings, that sadly for the owner, were infested with poor elderly people. The owner couldn't jackup the rent, due to laws designed to protect tenants. But Donald found a way past this. Donald could buy this buildings dirt cheap(1 million), then turn off all the utlities, force the old people out, and sell the buildings for around 60 million. This is a true story. That's how Donald got a big portion of his money.

This country with all of it's wealth wasn't just made for the rich, but also for the poor and the middle class. There are so many poor people out there,(many whom are lazy, but many whom are not) that didn't do anything to deserve their plight, but are simply being screwed because, guess what, your poor. It's not fair that some kids are on the streets homeless, when there is plenty enough money to provide for all of them. It's not fair that some kids go hungry, while others have more money than they know what to do with.

Another big problem with not having high taxes for the rich, and not having anti-monopoly laws, is that it promotes Oligarchy, or rule by the few. All societies generally go that direction anyway, but it's best to try and prevent it as much as possible. You never want any one person to have to much power. I don't want to wakeup one morning and hail the flag of the United States of Bill Gates. It just doesn't ring well in my mind.

George Bush has cut social services across the board. I don't even wanna go there.

I can agree that George Bush is Christian. He is FAR RIGHT WING Christian, that abhors anything that is not Christian, which by the way, isn't Christian.

Republican_Man · **Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:43 pm**

Captain Dappet · **Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:39 am**

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Republican_Man · **Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:08 pm**

See! This is GREAT! This shows that Bush is WINNING. This is the first significant lead in the polls by either candidate so far, and it's Bush and it's DOUBLE DIGITS!!!

Link, the Hero of Time · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:23 am**

As always there's a jump in points after the convention. It will subside soon enough.

Theresa · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:17 pm**

Kerry didn't pass Bush after his convention...

Link, the Hero of Time · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:02 pm**

Depending on what poll you looked at, he did. But only by a few points.

Theresa · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:07 pm**

Link, the Hero of Time · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:04 pm**

Someone at school Passed this link to me.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040907/D84UU1U00.html

Republican_Man · **Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:32 pm**

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

I read in The Times today that in the UK, France and Germany, Kerry is overwhelmingly more popular than Bush. Backing for Kerry is around 60% in the UK and a massive 80% in both Germany and France. Not that it has any bearing in the election itself, but still interesting.

Republican_Man · **Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:29 am**