DS9 errors

Founder · **Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:51 am DS9 errors**

We know for sure from DS9: "Through the Looking Glass" that Alliance ships are capable of cloaking. Yet, the whole episode DS9: "The Emperor's New Cloak" is built upon the inexcusable misconception that there is no cloak at all in the Mirror Universe.

Whats the deal with that? Obviously there was cloak. I mean I know they made a big deal about it becase the Terran rebels needed a weapon that would turn the tide and that was the Defiant but still....

Sonic74205 · **Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:06 am**

God your right. I never thought of that before.

Maybe absolutely every cloaking device in that univers was sabotaged

Ronevick · **Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:36 am**

You're right. I've said it many times before, and it's time for me to say it again, the writers know nothing!

Founder · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:17 pm**

I always thought you meant the ENT writers.

Founder · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:30 pm**

Another error I noticed on the show was in the episode Shadowplay.

Colyus is surprised when Odo demonstrates the ship's transporter, as though he'd never seen the technology before. A minute later, Odo asks Colyus if he has scanned for transporter activity, and Colyus responds that it was "the first thing I tried".

What the hell?

Another thing might not be an error but is weird.

In the episode The Jem'Hadar.

Eris doesn't react when she sees Odo, someone she should immediately recognize as a Founder and therefore a god. In fact she bumps into him at one point.

That might not be a mistake but every other Vorta recognizes Odo for what he is. Why doesn't she?

Another mistake that relates to that is in the episode The Search Part 1.

As the Jem'Hadar soldiers teleport aboard the Defiant, they engage in hand-to-hand combat with Kira and Odo. Given that to the Jem'Hadar Odo is a Founder and therefore a God, they would have bowed down to him, not assaulted him.

Then in The Search Part 2 another thing bothers me.

In later episodes we learn that the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar are genetically programmed to revere the Founders as gods. So why was the Vorta looking after the captured Starfleet members so uppity and disrepectful toward Odo? Even if he had never seen Odo before, as a Vorta he's genetically programmed to recognize a Founder and bow and serve him. Look at Weyoun in later episodes--even though Odo doesn't consider himself a Founder, Weyoun still goes out of his way to please Odo.

Also if the Founders are better at shapeshifting than Odo, why do they always identify themselves to others by keeping their faces the same as Odo? Couldn't the special effects artists come up with a better way to let the audience identify a Founder?

I know some of these things aren't mistakes but what reasons are there for that?

Hitchhiker · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:43 pm**

Eris was probably told by the Founders, the actual Founders, to ignore Odo. I don't believe for a second that the Founders were ignorant of Odo's existence, the Founders knew too much. So it was all part of the plot.

The same with the uppity Vorta.

They serve the Founders. As long as Odo is not directly thwarting the Founders, they serve him. Even if Odo is directly thwarting the Founders, they still won't kill Odo. In the episode where Odo and Weyoun are fleeing in a runabout, they fire on the craft but make sure not to destroy it.

I think there are degrees of loyalty.

But those are all good continuity errors that you pointed out.

Pah-Wraith · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:54 pm**

Founder · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:14 pm**

Ya'll are both wrong and right. The Founrder's sent a 100 infants into space to explore for them. Odo was one of them so they know of him. They didn't know that he was in the Alpha Quadrant and was on Deep Space 9 cause they haven't discovered the Wormhole.

So the whol Eris was told to ignore him can't be right because they didn't know he was there.

The uppity Vorta didn't ignore Odo. Im not saying he treated Odo badly but he wasn't submissive. This may not be a mistake because some Vorta can act differently. Remember the last episode of DS9? When the female Changeling signed the treaty to end the war? The Vorta reached out almost as if to beg her not to do it. So obviously they aren't blindly submissive.

About the episode where they were fleeing the Jem'Hadar in the shuttle, the Jem'Hadar were told Odo wasn't oboard. Cause I remember the evil Weyoun was like "They won't fire on a Founder." and Damar was like "They don't need to know a Founder is onboard...." and Weyoun said "Odo doesn't consider himself a Founder..." So they lied to the Jem'Hadar.

It was still strange they didn't even try and at least "order" Odo to stand down in the episode the Search.

Hitchhiker · **Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:54 pm**

Founder · **Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:04 am**

Defiant · **Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:06 am**

I hate those stupid little ways they get away with descripincies (sp?) and make them work. Its so...unrealistic...

L'ursa · **Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:10 pm**

FlangBG · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 82

In "the Search", The founders take human form before linking with Odo.

Founder · **Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:45 pm**

Sonic74205 · **Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:23 pm**

Well, they took a humanoid form and its obviouse that they had encountered humanoids before.

robbiewebster · **Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:21 pm**

i usually just try to ignore the small discrepencies, but if its really large i start to get pissed, the fans shouldn't have the ability to point out these kinds of mistakes, the people who are getting paid to create the stories should pick out the errors beforehand.

voyagerfreak29 · **Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:04 pm**

^ I agree on that but if you compare DS9 to other shows it is kinds boring (no affence to any1) so errors are really easy to spot

Lindley · **Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:13 pm**

Lindley · **Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:22 pm**

Founder · **Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:10 am**

Here is another thing im confused about. This isn't exactly an error but it is confusing.

In the episode "Doctor Bashir, I presume?", Bashir explains to O'Brian that genetic manipulation is illegal except in cases of severe defects. Before he said that he explained to O'Brian that he was slow mentally, physically weak, and just awkward. He was behind other kids in mental and physical aspects. When other kids were learning how to use computers he was still trying to learn how to tell the differnce between a dog and cat. Is this not a defect? Why did they feel this was illegal?

luit14 · **Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:58 pm**

thats true.

well maybe thats why starfleet didnt insist on a severe punishment and allowed his dad to go to prison for only 2 years

luit14 · **Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:05 pm**

I also noticed that in the episode "A Time To Stand" they are in the battle with the starfleet ship and they are like: "Set a course for the border, warp 7." Then they're like: "We can't the guidence thrusters are offline." Then the dominion go after the starfleet ship and it leaves. Then after saying stuff like I wish we could help them they go back to warp to their destination.

iamthepolarbear · **Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:22 pm**

The reason for all the descrepences (SP?) is the fact that it was an ongoing story line for 7 years... your bound to have a few bumps along the way!

luit14 · **Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:31 pm**

True, but it's fun to point them out anyway.

Hitchhiker · **Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:27 pm**