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| Angeldust wrote: | Come, conservatives, and hear the voice of wisdom...  |
Alright, Comeone! That's crap.
Well, here's his speech. My comments are in BOLD.
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Transcript: John Kerry
Thursday, July 29, 2004
The following is the text of a speech given by presidential candidate John Kerry at the Democratic National Convention on Thursday, July 29, 2004:
We are here tonight because we love our country. Democrats? Love their country?
We are proud of what America is and what it can become. That's different from what you say later...
My fellow Americans: we are here tonight united in one simple purpose: to make America stronger at home and respected in the world. What, in order get respect, we have to bow down to the wishes of France and Germany, eh?
A great American novelist wrote that you can't go home again. He could not have imagined this evening. Tonight, I am home. Home where my public life began and those who made it possible live. Home where our nation's history was written in blood, idealism, and hope. Home where my parents showed me the values of family, faith, and country.
Thank you, all of you, for a welcome home I will never forget.
I wish my parents could share this moment. They went to their rest in the last few years, but their example, their inspiration, their gift of open eyes, open mind, and endless world are bigger and more lasting than any words.
I was born in Colorado, in Fitzsimmons Army Hospital, when my dad was a pilot in World War II. Now, I'm not one to read into things, but guess which wing of the hospital the maternity ward was in? I'm not making this up. I was born in the West Wing! Oh, yeah. Great.
My mother was the rock of our family as so many mothers are. She stayed up late to help me do my homework. She sat by my bed when I was sick, and she answered the questions of a child who, like all children, found the world full of wonders and mysteries.
She was my den mother when I was a Cub Scout and she was so proud of her fifty year pin as a Girl Scout leader. She gave me her passion for the environment. She taught me to see trees as the cathedrals of nature. And by the power of her example, she showed me that we can and must finish the march toward full equality for all women in our country.
My dad did the things that a boy remembers. He gave me my first model airplane, my first baseball mitt and my first bicycle. He also taught me that we are here for something bigger than ourselves; he lived out the responsibilities and sacrifices of the greatest generation to whom we owe so much.
When I was a young man, he was in the State Department, stationed in Berlin when it and the world were divided between democracy and communism. I have unforgettable memories of being a kid mesmerized by the British, French, and American troops, each of them guarding their own part of the city, and Russians standing guard on the stark line separating East from West. On one occasion, I rode my bike into Soviet East Berlin. And when I proudly told my dad, he promptly grounded me. That was kind of funny--I must admit.
But what I learned has stayed with me for a lifetime. I saw how different life was on different sides of the same city. I saw the fear in the eyes of people who were not free. I saw the gratitude of people toward the United States for all that we had done. I felt goose bumps as I got off a military train and heard the Army band strike up "Stars and Stripes Forever." I learned what it meant to be America at our best. I learned the pride of our freedom. And I am determined now to restore that pride to all who look to America. And what did you just say, Mr. Kerry, at the beginning of the speech? "We are proud of what America is and what it can become. " Which is it?
Mine were greatest generation parents. And as I thank them, we all join together to thank that whole generation for making America strong, for winning World War II, winning the Cold War, and for the great gift of service which brought America fifty years of peace and prosperity.
My parents inspired me to serve, and when I was a junior in high school, John Kennedy called my generation to service. It was the beginning of a great journey � a time to march for civil rights, for voting rights, for the environment, for women, and for peace. We believed we could change the world. And you know what? We did.
But we're not finished. The journey isn't complete. The march isn't over. The promise isn't perfected. Tonight, we're setting out again. And together, we're going to write the next great chapter of America's story.
We have it in our power to change the world again. But only if we're true to our ideals � and that starts by telling the truth to the American people. That is my first pledge to you tonight. As President, I will restore trust and credibility to the White House. Read that paragraph closely. Now Kerry's calling Bush a liar and says that he will bring trust and credibility back to the White House. This coming from a guy who VOTED for war and SUPPORTED it for a long while!
I ask you to judge me by my record: As a young prosecutor, I fought for victim's rights and made prosecuting violence against women a priority. When I came to the Senate, I broke with many in my own party to vote for a balanced budget, because I thought it was the right thing to do. I fought to put a 100,000 cops on the street. Sure.
And then I reached across the aisle to work with John McCain, to find the truth about our POW's and missing in action, and to finally make peace with Vietnam. Well, you're not giving us the whole story, Mr. Kerry.
I will be a commander in chief who will never mislead us into war. I will have a Vice President who will not conduct secret meetings with polluters to rewrite our environmental laws. I will have a Secretary of Defense who will listen to the best advice of our military leaders. And I will appoint an Attorney General who actually upholds the Constitution of the United States. Who will never mislead us into war! What!? You supported the war, Mr. Kerry. Now you're saying that Bush MISLEAD us and LIED to us? Well, then so did you. And upholds the Constitution of the United States? And how is Ashcroft not?
My fellow Americans, this is the most important election of our lifetime. The stakes are high. We are a nation at war � a global War on Terror against an enemy unlike any we have ever known before. And here at home, wages are falling, health care costs are rising, and our great middle class is shrinking. People are working weekends; they're working two jobs, three jobs, and they're still not getting ahead. Can't disagree with the Most Important Election comment. And no, the economy is not as bad as Kerry is portraying it.
We're told that outsourcing jobs is good for America. We're told that new jobs that pay $9,000 less than the jobs that have been lost is the best we can do. They say this is the best economy we've ever had. And they say that anyone who thinks otherwise is a pessimist. Well, here is our answer: There is nothing more pessimistic than saying America can't do better. And what are you going to do, Kerry? Stop the Unions from gaining so much power? And I have YET TO SEE Bush say that we can't do better.
We can do better and we will. We're the optimists. For us, this is a country of the future. We're the can do people. And let's not forget what we did in the 1990s. We balanced the budget. We paid down the debt. We created 23 million new jobs. We lifted millions out of poverty and we lifted the standard of living for the middle class. We just need to believe in ourselves - and we can do it again. Guess what's happened? A recession, the Bubble Burst, 9/11. MANY THINGS have happened, Mr. Kerry. REMEMBER THAT.
So tonight, in the city where America's freedom began, only a few blocks from where the sons and daughters of liberty gave birth to our nation; here tonight, on behalf of a new birth of freedom; on behalf of the middle class who deserve a champion, and those struggling to join it who deserve a fair shot; for the brave men and women in uniform who risk their lives every day and the families who pray for their return; for all those who believe our best days are ahead of us � for all of you � with great faith in the American people, I accept your nomination for President of the United States. Boo!
I am proud that at my side will be a running mate whose life is the story of the American dream and who's worked every day to make that dream real for all Americans � Senator John Edwards of North Carolina. And his wonderful wife Elizabeth and their family. This son of a mill worker is ready to lead � and next January, Americans will be proud to have a fighter for the middle class to succeed Dick Cheney as Vice President of the United States. Bah! That's just not true--that's just what Edwards is portraying himself. Look at his court cases.
And what can I say about Teresa? She has the strongest moral compass of anyone I know. She's down to earth, nurturing, courageous, wise and smart. She speaks her mind and she speaks the truth, and I love her for that, too. And that's why America will embrace her as the next First Lady of the United States. Strong moral compass! Well, I say to that, "Shove it!" (After Teresa said that to a reporter asking her a good question.)
For Teresa and me, no matter what the future holds or the past has given us, nothing will ever mean as much as our children. We love them not just for who they are and what they've become, but for being themselves, making us laugh, holding our feet to the fire, and never letting me get away with anything. Thank you, Andre, Alex, Chris, Vanessa, and John.
And in this journey, I am accompanied by an extraordinary band of brothers led by that American hero, a patriot named Max Cleland. Our band of brothers doesn't march together because of who we are as veterans, but because of what we learned as soldiers. We fought for this nation because we loved it and we came back with the deep belief that every day is extra. We may be a little older now, we may be a little grayer, but we still know how to fight for our country.
And standing with us in that fight are those who shared with me the long season of the primary campaign: Carol Moseley Braun, General Wesley Clark, Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, Bob Graham, Dennis Kucinich, Joe Lieberman and Al Sharpton. Go Lieberman, one of the VERY FEW voices of reason in your party!
To all of you, I say thank you for teaching me and testing me � but mostly, we say thank you for standing up for our country and giving us the unity to move America forward.
My fellow Americans, the world tonight is very different from the world of four years ago. But I believe the American people are more than equal to the challenge. Yes, I agree, but not so much under your leadership.
Remember the hours after September 11, when we came together as one to answer the attack against our homeland. We drew strength when our firefighters ran up the stairs and risked their lives, so that others might live. When rescuers rushed into smoke and fire at the Pentagon. When the men and women of Flight 93 sacrificed themselves to save our nation's Capitol. When flags were hanging from front porches all across America, and strangers became friends. It was the worst day we have ever seen, but it brought out the best in all of us. Agreed.
I am proud that after September 11th all our people rallied to President Bush's call for unity to meet the danger. There were no Democrats. There were no Republicans. There were only Americans. How we wish it had stayed that way. I do too, but then came the Democrats/Liberals politicizing the war, like Kennedy, Dean, and Gore.
Now I know there are those who criticize me for seeing complexities � and I do � because some issues just aren't all that simple. Saying there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq doesn't make it so. Saying we can fight a war on the cheap doesn't make it so. And proclaiming mission accomplished certainly doesn't make it so. Well guess what, Kerry? YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE WMDS TOO!!! What does "Saying we can fight a war on the cheap" mean? And it was NOT Bush who did the Mission Accomplished thing.
As President, I will ask hard questions and demand hard evidence. I will immediately reform the intelligence system � so policy is guided by facts, and facts are never distorted by politics. And as President, I will bring back this nation's time-honored tradition: the United States of America never goes to war because we want to, we only go to war because we have to. Ask hard questions? Demand hard evidence? Then if your saying that, then explain this to me--did you ask those questions and such before you VOTED for war? And the war that YOU SUPPORTED AND VOTED FOR WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO? Oy!
I know what kids go through when they are carrying an M-16 in a dangerous place and they can't tell friend from foe. I know what they go through when they're out on patrol at night and they don't know what's coming around the next bend. I know what it's like to write letters home telling your family that everything's all right when you're not sure that's true. Yeah, what are you going to do about it, though? You don't even say that.
As President, I will wage this war with the lessons I learned in war. Before you go to battle, you have to be able to look a parent in the eye and truthfully say: "I tried everything possible to avoid sending your son or daughter into harm's way. But we had no choice. We had to protect the American people, fundamental American values from a threat that was real and imminent." So lesson one, this is the only justification for going to war. Ay! That's obviously what a President should believe and think, and when someone enlists into war, then they know the consiquences. Plus, Bush DID say stuff similar to that.
And on my first day in office, I will send a message to every man and woman in our armed forces: You will never be asked to fight a war without a plan to win the peace.
I know what we have to do in Iraq. We need a President who has the credibility to bring our allies to our side and share the burden, reduce the cost to American taxpayers, and reduce the risk to American soldiers. That's the right way to get the job done and bring our troops home.
Here is the reality: that won't happen until we have a president who restores America's respect and leadership � so we don't have to go it alone in the world. We did NOT go it alone, damn it! We had 34 allies in Iraq! That's NOT going-it-alone.
And we need to rebuild our alliances, so we can get the terrorists before they get us. Yeah, we need to bow to the wishes of France and Germany, huh? *sarcasm*
I defended this country as a young man and I will defend it as President. Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security. And I will build a stronger American military. Well, it was required when going into Iraq, and yet you now say that you oppose it.
We will add 40,000 active duty troops � not in Iraq, but to strengthen American forces that are now overstretched, overextended, and under pressure. We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations. We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives � and win the battle. And we will end the backdoor draft of National Guard and reservists. Well, remember: they are part of the military! They should know the risks that they take when joining it. Plus, HOW are you going to get 40,000 more troops?
To all who serve in our armed forces today, I say, help is on the way. How?
As President, I will fight a smarter, more effective war on terror. We will deploy every tool in our arsenal: our economic as well as our military might; our principles as well as our firepower. Hah!
In these dangerous days there is a right way and a wrong way to be strong. Strength is more than tough words. After decades of experience in national security, I know the reach of our power and I know the power of our ideals.
We need to make America once again a beacon in the world. We need to be looked up to and not just feared. Feared? How are we FEARED, except by the terrorists thanks to Bush. And we should be looked up to--we've freed SO MANY COUNTRIES.
We need to lead a global effort against nuclear proliferation - to keep the most dangerous weapons in the world out of the most dangerous hands in the world. What did we do in Iraq, huh? And now you're opposed to it. Interesting.
We need a strong military and we need to lead strong alliances. And then, with confidence and determination, we will be able to tell the terrorists: You will lose and we will win. The future doesn't belong to fear; it belongs to freedom.
And the front lines of this battle are not just far away � they're right here on our shores, at our airports, and potentially in any town or city. Today, our national security begins with homeland security. The 9-11 Commission has given us a path to follow, endorsed by Democrats, Republicans, and the 9-11 families. As President, I will not evade or equivocate; I will immediately implement the recommendations of that commission. We shouldn't be letting ninety-five percent of container ships come into our ports without ever being physically inspected. We shouldn't be leaving our nuclear and chemical plants without enough protection. And we shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them down in the United States of America. What is Bush doing now? And we are NOT closing firehouses down in the US!
And tonight, we have an important message for those who question the patriotism of Americans who offer a better direction for our country. Before wrapping themselves in the flag and shutting their eyes and ears to the truth, they should remember what America is really all about. They should remember the great idea of freedom for which so many have given their lives. Our purpose now is to reclaim democracy itself. We are here to affirm that when Americans stand up and speak their minds and say America can do better, that is not a challenge to patriotism; it is the heart and soul of patriotism. Republicans have NOT challenged its patriotism, and we DO understand that freedom--and we've brought it to other countries!
You see that flag up there. We call her Old Glory. The stars and stripes forever. I fought under that flag, as did so many of you here and all across our country. That flag flew from the gun turret right behind my head. It was shot through and through and tattered, but it never ceased to wave in the wind. It draped the caskets of men I served with and friends I grew up with. For us, that flag is the most powerful symbol of who we are and what we believe in. Our strength. Our diversity. Our love of country. All that makes America both great and good.
That flag doesn't belong to any president. It doesn't belong to any ideology and it doesn't belong to any political party. It belongs to all the American people. Duh! Tell that to the leaders of your party!
My fellow citizens, elections are about choices. And choices are about values. In the end, it's not just policies and programs that matter; the president who sits at that desk must be guided by principle. Bush is guided by principal, you are not.
For four years, we've heard a lot of talk about values. But values spoken without actions taken are just slogans. Values are not just words. They're what we live by. They're about the causes we champion and the people we fight for. And it is time for those who talk about family values to start valuing families.
You don't value families by kicking kids out of after school programs and taking cops off our streets, so that Enron can get another tax break. Oh come on, that's not true, just not true! And it's the STATE's job to provide for the most of the education, and yet they don't put money towards it. It's in the constitution.
We believe in the family value of caring for our children and protecting the neighborhoods where they walk and play. Yes, but what are you going to do about it?
And that is the choice in this election.
You don't value families by denying real prescription drug coverage to seniors, so big drug companies can get another windfall.
We believe in the family value expressed in one of the oldest Commandments: "Honor thy father and thy mother." As President, I will not privatize Social Security. I will not cut benefits. And together, we will make sure that senior citizens never have to cut their pills in half because they can't afford life-saving medicine. I haven't seen Bush do that.
And that is the choice in this election.
You don't value families if you force them to take up a collection to buy body armor for a son or daughter in the service, if you deny veterans health care, or if you tell middle class families to wait for a tax cut, so that the wealthiest among us can get even more. Hey, guess what? YOU VOTED AGAINST THE $87 BILLION, so DON'T TELL ME THAT YOU DON'T WANT COLLECTIONS FOR BODY ARMOR, if that's even happening! And Bush has RAISED spending for veterans, and the MIDDLE CLASS IS RECEIVING TAX CUTS--my friend's family did, and their RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE. We are in the upper-middle class, and are your rich, and yet we HAVEN'T been affected by them--and we're YOUR RICH!
We believe in the value of doing what's right for everyone in the American family.
And that is the choice in this election.
We believe that what matters most is not narrow appeals masquerading as values, but the shared values that show the true face of America. Not narrow appeals that divide us, but shared values that unite us. Family and faith. Hard work and responsibility. Opportunity for all � so that every child, every parent, every worker has an equal shot at living up to their God-given potential. Exactly, and that's been given.
What does it mean in America today when Dave McCune, a steel worker I met in Canton, Ohio, saw his job sent overseas and the equipment in his factory literally unbolted, crated up, and shipped thousands of miles away along with that job? What does it mean when workers I've met had to train their foreign replacements? It's greatly because of the Unions, Kerry.
America can do better. So tonight we say: help is on the way.
What does it mean when Mary Ann Knowles, a woman with breast cancer I met in New Hampshire, had to keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance.
America can do better. And help is on the way.
What does it mean when Deborah Kromins from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, works and saves all her life only to find out that her pension has disappeared into thin air � and the executive who looted it has bailed out on a golden parachute?
America can do better. And help is on the way.
What does it mean when twenty five percent of the children in Harlem have asthma because of air pollution?
America can do better. And help is on the way.
What does it mean when people are huddled in blankets in the cold, sleeping in Lafayette Park on the doorstep of the White House itself � and the number of families living in poverty has risen by three million in the last four years?
America can do better. And help is on the way.
And so we come here tonight to ask: Where is the conscience of our country?
I'll tell you where it is: it's in rural and small town America; it's in urban neighborhoods and suburban main streets; it's alive in the people I've met in every part of this land. It's bursting in the hearts of Americans who are determined to give our country back its values and its truth.
We value jobs that pay you more not less than you earned before. We value jobs where, when you put in a week's work, you can actually pay your bills, provide for your children, and lift up the quality of your life. We value an America where the middle class is not being squeezed, but doing better. The middle class IS doing better!
So here is our economic plan to build a stronger America:
First, new incentives to revitalize manufacturing. Sure.
Second, investment in technology and innovation that will create the good-paying jobs of the future. Sure.
Third, close the tax loopholes that reward companies for shipping our jobs overseas. Instead, we will reward companies that create and keep good paying jobs where they belong � in the good old U.S.A.
We value an America that exports products, not jobs � and we believe American workers should never have to subsidize the loss of their own job. Subsidize the loss of there job? When has that happened?
Next, we will trade and compete in the world. But our plan calls for a fair playing field � because if you give the American worker a fair playing field, there's nobody in the world the American worker can't compete against. Sure you will.
And we're going to return to fiscal responsibility because it is the foundation of our economic strength. Our plan will cut the deficit in half in four years by ending tax giveaways that are nothing more than corporate welfare � and will make government live by the rule that every family has to follow: pay as you go. Hah! That won't happen--you'll spend more!
And let me tell you what we won't do: we won't raise taxes on the middle class. You've heard a lot of false charges about this in recent months. So let me say straight out what I will do as President: I will cut middle class taxes. I will reduce the tax burden on small business. And I will roll back the tax cuts for the wealthiest individuals who make over $200,000 a year, so we can invest in job creation, health care and education. Alright, guess what. You WILL raise taxes on the middle class. You WILL! You have a history of raising taxes, and overall you WILL RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, especially the upper-middle class, which is just below your $200,000 mark.
Our education plan for a stronger America sets high standards and demands accountability from parents, teachers, and schools. It provides for smaller class sizes and treats teachers like the professionals they are. And it gives a tax credit to families for each and every year of college. Sure you will. No, you won't set high standards for schools. You are now OPPOSED to No Child Left Behind.
When I was a prosecutor, I met young kids who were in trouble, abandoned by adults. And as President, I am determined that we stop being a nation content to spend $50,000 a year to keep a young person in prison for the rest of their life - when we could invest $10,000 to give them Head Start, Early Start, Smart Start, the best possible start in life.
And we value health care that's affordable and accessible for all Americans. And what about Bush's new bill?
Since 2000, four million people have lost their health insurance. Millions more are struggling to afford it.
You know what's happening. Your premiums, your co-payments, your deductibles have all gone through the roof.
Our health care plan for a stronger America cracks down on the waste, greed, and abuse in our health care system and will save families up to $1,000 a year on their premiums. You'll get to pick your own doctor � and patients and doctors, not insurance company bureaucrats, will make medical decisions. Under our plan, Medicare will negotiate lower drug prices for seniors. And all Americans will be able to buy less expensive prescription drugs from countries like Canada. No way, Jose! And then you tell us that you want a better economy? Well, you're going to give Canada the latter.
The story of people struggling for health care is the story of so many Americans. But you know what, it's not the story of senators and members of Congress. Because we give ourselves great health care and you get the bill. Well, I'm here to say, your family's health care is just as important as any politician's in Washington, D.C.
And when I'm President, America will stop being the only advanced nation in the world which fails to understand that health care is not a privilege for the wealthy, the connected, and the elected - it is a right for all Americans. Yeah, we're going to become SOCIALISTS everyone! Yeah!!!!! *sarcasim*
We value an America that controls its own destiny because it's finally and forever independent of Mideast oil. What does it mean for our economy and our national security when we only have three percent of the world's oil reserves, yet we rely on foreign countries for fifty-three percent of what we consume? Yes. And we can limit that by DRILLING IN ALASKA.
I want an America that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation � not the Saudi royal family. Ooooh! Saudi Arabia's really going to like you a lot! And how will you do that?
And our energy plan for a stronger America will invest in new technologies and alternative fuels and the cars of the future � so that no young American in uniform will ever be held hostage to our dependence on oil from the Middle East. There are other things that we can do until those sources are developed, like DRILL IN ALASKA.
I've told you about our plans for the economy, for education, for health care, for energy independence. I want you to know more about them. So now I'm going to say something that Franklin Roosevelt could never have said in his acceptance speech: go to johnkerry.com.
I want to address these next words directly to President George W. Bush: In the weeks ahead, let's be optimists, not just opponents. Let's build unity in the American family, not angry division. Let's honor this nation's diversity; let's respect one another; and let's never misuse for political purposes the most precious document in American history, the Constitution of the United States. Great image. Too bad it's not really yours. Oh, and what about your promise not to attack the President once the war began? That ended when troops were TWENTY-FIVE MILES FROM IRAQ!
My friends, the high road may be harder, but it leads to a better place. And that's why Republicans and Democrats must make this election a contest of big ideas, not small-minded attacks. This is our time to reject the kind of politics calculated to divide race from race, group from group, region from region. Maybe some just see us divided into red states and blue states, but I see us as one America - red, white, and blue. And when I am President, the government I lead will enlist people of talent, Republicans as well as Democrats, to find the common ground �so that no one who has something to contribute will be left on the sidelines. Tell that to the REAL Gore, Kenneddy, Dean, etc!
And let me say it plainly: in that cause, and in this campaign, we welcome people of faith. America is not us and them. I think of what Ron Reagan said of his father a few weeks ago, and I want to say this to you tonight: I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve. But faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday. I don't want to claim that God is on our side. As Abraham Lincoln told us, I want to pray humbly that we are on God's side. And whatever our faith, one belief should bind us all: The measure of our character is our willingness to give of ourselves for others and for our country. Watch out for the Religious Right, Kerry! And, so God isn't on our side, eh? The side of PURE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IN THE WORLD?
These aren't Democratic values. These aren't Republican values. They're American values. We believe in them. They're who we are. And if we honor them, if we believe in ourselves, we can build an America that's stronger at home and respected in the world. Of course you do.
So much promise stretches before us. Americans have always reached for the impossible, looked to the next horizon, and asked: What if?
Two young bicycle mechanics from Dayton asked what if this airplane could take off at Kitty Hawk? It did that and changed the world forever. A young president asked what if we could go to the moon in ten years? And now we're exploring the solar system and the stars themselves. A young generation of entrepreneurs asked, what if we could take all the information in a library and put it on a little chip the size of a fingernail? We did and that too changed the world forever.
And now it's our time to ask: What if?
What if we find a breakthrough to cure Parkinson's, diabetes, Alzheimer's and AIDs? What if we have a president who believes in science, so we can unleash the wonders of discovery like stem cell research to treat illness and save millions of lives?
What if we do what adults should do - and make sure all our children are safe in the afternoons after school? And what if we have a leadership that's as good as the American dream � so that bigotry and hatred never again steal the hope and future of any American?
I learned a lot about these values on that gunboat patrolling the Mekong Delta with young Americans who came from places as different as Iowa and Oregon, Arkansas, Florida and California. No one cared where we went to school. No one cared about our race or our backgrounds. We were literally all in the same boat. We looked out, one for the other � and we still do.
That is the kind of America I will lead as President � an America where we are all in the same boat.
Never has there been a more urgent moment for Americans to step up and define ourselves. I will work my heart out. But, my fellow citizens, the outcome is in your hands more than mine.
It is time to reach for the next dream. It is time to look to the next horizon. For America, the hope is there. The sun is rising. Our best days are still to come.
Goodnight, God bless you, and God bless America.
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1. Kerry gives NO REAL PLAN for how he's going to do what he says he will do.
2. He's now saying that BUSH LIED TO TAKE US TO WAR and MISLEAD US and that he won't LIE, MISLEAD, and go to war because we WANT TO. This coming from a guy who VOTED for the war.
3. This is all crap! It's full of lies, and spinning, and propaganda.
That's all I have to say, the rest is in the Transcript, as well as, Boo Kerry! Go Bush!
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I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. It was all wrong. (I am WAY too lazy to read all that)
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| Defiant wrote: | | I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. It was all wrong. (I am WAY too lazy to read all that) |
Hey, I listened to it, Read it, and Responded to it. And if you didn't read all of it, then how can you disagree with EVERYTHING I said? Well, I guess YOU can.
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Yes, I can. Mua ha ha. LOL. Sorry to not provide you an arguement, but I am sooooooooooo lazy.
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Meh. I've heard enough Propaganda for today.
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Ill say something about it...
John Kerry voted for the war because he believed President Bush had credible proof of WMDs. When it all came down too it, no real WMDs were ever found just some Artillery Shell with a little bit of chemicals on it so that is why he started to vote against it.
What did President Bush say after? John Kerry Flipped-Flopped.
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John Edwards court cases doesnt prove anything except to the fact he did his job. John Edwards started out with nothing to get somewhere in life as Senator and soon to be Vice President.
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Theresa Heinz Kerry said what she needed to say. "If a bunch of reporters keep chasing you down asking you questions even though you are tired to answering them it can make you real angry" (I am correct about that republican man) Its like a guy pushing you around and you tell him to stop but he wont so you say something that is not nice.
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President Bush sent troops to Iraq first the Allies came in the middle and after the war. So that is what John Kerry is saying about going in alone in Iraq.
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We drill in Alaska we are harming the environment up there because it would mean the construction of oil pipelines. If that pipeline goes up in flames or leaks the environment is harmed no matter.
We could use Natural Gas, Hydrogen Power, Wind Power, and even Solar Power for Cars, Homes, and other things. (Ever thought of that Republican man or is it oil is more important because it is good money)
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| Quote: | Ill say something about it...
John Kerry voted for the war because he believed President Bush had credible proof of WMDs. When it all came down too it, no real WMDs were ever found just some Artillery Shell with a little bit of chemicals on it so that is why he started to vote against it.
What did President Bush say after? John Kerry Flipped-Flopped.
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So we can let Kerry go and change his mind but we get to blame Bush when they still got the same bad intel?
| Quote: | Theresa Heinz Kerry said what she needed to say. "If a bunch of reporters keep chasing you down asking you questions even though you are tired to answering them it can make you real angry" (I am correct about that republican man) Its like a guy pushing you around and you tell him to stop but he wont so you say something that is not nice.
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I am sure she can handle it. Either way who cares.....just like when one of the Bush girls stuck their tongue out at a reporter....DO WE CARE...???
| Quote: | We drill in Alaska we are harming the environment up there because it would mean the construction of oil pipelines. If that pipeline goes up in flames or leaks the environment is harmed no matter.
We could use Natural Gas, Hydrogen Power, Wind Power, and even Solar Power for Cars, Homes, and other things. (Ever thought of that Republican man or is it oil is more important because it is good money)
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Have YOU ever thought that drilling in Alaska might make us more capable to become independent of foreign oil? This is the one thing that I think is just stupid. A friggin pipeline isn't going to hurt anything, neither are a few well placed oil wells....gimme a break.
And Natural Gas wouldn't become good money??
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Lets not forget that the proposed drilling site IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. No forests, few animals, no vegetation. Simply tundra.
Plus, burning oil is NOT as bad for the environment as people think. One large volcano (perfectly natural) puts out FAR MORE toxins than mankind EVER had.
Nature is tough. Man made the Earth good, nature will adapt to us.
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| borgslayer wrote: | Ill say something about it...
John Kerry voted for the war because he believed President Bush had credible proof of WMDs. When it all came down too it, no real WMDs were ever found just some Artillery Shell with a little bit of chemicals on it so that is why he started to vote against it.
What did President Bush say after? John Kerry Flipped-Flopped.
He DID flip-flop. He changed his view on a war that HE supported and VOTED ON. I've read quotes and heard quotes. Plus, the Congress was GIVEN THE SAME INTEL THAT BUSH WAS, Bush didn't change it AT ALL. Just because WMDs haven't really been found yet doesn't make Bush a liar and that he mislead the American people to war, and that's a quarrel with him. Also, he has changed his view on the war for political purposes. He is saying that we shouldn't have gone to war JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY FOUND WMDs. He is politically expedient, and is now calling Bush a liar.
He did NOT start to "vote against it." What he voted against was the $87 Billion to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
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John Edwards court cases doesnt prove anything except to the fact he did his job. John Edwards started out with nothing to get somewhere in life as Senator and soon to be Vice President.
Yes, he did his job, but he did dirty things for it, like some sort of disease or something as well as sue McDonalds for somebody spilling coffee in their car.
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Theresa Heinz Kerry said what she needed to say. "If a bunch of reporters keep chasing you down asking you questions even though you are tired to answering them it can make you real angry" (I am correct about that republican man) Its like a guy pushing you around and you tell him to stop but he wont so you say something that is not nice.
Yes, I understand that, but she did NOT make it clear, and this is what it's about: She said the words "un-American" and when confronted by a reporter to find out what exactly she did not respond to it. She SHOULD HAVE. She HAD to have, but she didn't, and then was rude, and it was caught on camera. And this is supposed to be a candidate for FIRST LADY.
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President Bush sent troops to Iraq first the Allies came in the middle and after the war. So that is what John Kerry is saying about going in alone in Iraq.
That is not that entirely true. We DID have multiple allies. It IS true that many of them--perhaps the majority of them came later--but we DID have sufficient allies in the war. Plus, even if we had to go alone, Bush would have done so to protect our country.
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We drill in Alaska we are harming the environment up there because it would mean the construction of oil pipelines. If that pipeline goes up in flames or leaks the environment is harmed no matter.
We could use Natural Gas, Hydrogen Power, Wind Power, and even Solar Power for Cars, Homes, and other things. (Ever thought of that Republican man or is it oil is more important because it is good money)
That is a LAME excuse up above. I understand the Natural Gas, etc, but that is all expensive stuff, especially for cars. (Which is mainly what I'm talking about--cars). Plus, what do you do while your waiting for those capabilities to become greatly available? We need better sources for oil.
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Quote: | Ill say something about it...
John Kerry voted for the war because he believed President Bush had credible proof of WMDs. When it all came down too it, no real WMDs were ever found just some Artillery Shell with a little bit of chemicals on it so that is why he started to vote against it.
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So we can let Kerry go and change his mind but we get to blame Bush when they still got the same bad intel?
Exactly. At least you are not a politician like Kerry and are not also calling him a liar and saying that he mislead us all.
| Quote: | Theresa Heinz Kerry said what she needed to say. "If a bunch of reporters keep chasing you down asking you questions even though you are tired to answering them it can make you real angry" (I am correct about that republican man) Its like a guy pushing you around and you tell him to stop but he wont so you say something that is not nice.
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I am sure she can handle it. Either way who cares.....just like when one of the Bush girls stuck their tongue out at a reporter....DO WE CARE...???
The Bush girl is not a first lady, and she didn't say "Just shove it." And I care because she's a candidate for FIRST LADY.
| Quote: | We drill in Alaska we are harming the environment up there because it would mean the construction of oil pipelines. If that pipeline goes up in flames or leaks the environment is harmed no matter.
We could use Natural Gas, Hydrogen Power, Wind Power, and even Solar Power for Cars, Homes, and other things. (Ever thought of that Republican man or is it oil is more important because it is good money)
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Have YOU ever thought that drilling in Alaska might make us more capable to become independent of foreign oil? This is the one thing that I think is just stupid. A friggin pipeline isn't going to hurt anything, neither are a few well placed oil wells....gimme a break.
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EXACTLY, Janeway. EXACTLY.
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Great point!
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Nature is tough. Man made the Earth good, nature will adapt to us. |
Great points again, my friend! And those Volcanoes have a greater impact on (edit) on the "threat" of Global Warming then than humans, but let's stick to Kerry's speech, shall we?
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| Quote: | | My fellow Americans: we are here tonight united in one simple purpose: to make America stronger at home and respected in the world. What, in order get respect, we have to bow down to the wishes of France and Germany, eh? |
I know! Democratic Presidents tend to "bow down to the wishes" of foreign powers. As a Cuban American I know this lesson well. J.F. Kennedy bowed down to Cuba and Russia and left many Cuban Americans to die. Cuban Americans hate democrats because of that. Carter makes open deals with Castro. Clinton sent Elian back. Democrats SUCK when dealing with my people. Because of that and many other cases Democrats alienated my race. We look forward to Kerry finding a way to screw us over. 
| Quote: | | I was born in Colorado, in Fitzsimmons Army Hospital, when my dad was a pilot in World War II. Now, I'm not one to read into things, but guess which wing of the hospital the maternity ward was in? I'm not making this up. I was born in the West Wing! |
Well if that doesn't qualify him to be president I dont know what does.
| Quote: | John Kerry voted for the war because he believed President Bush had credible proof of WMDs. When it all came down too it, no real WMDs were ever found just some Artillery Shell with a little bit of chemicals on it so that is why he started to vote against it.
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Uh Bush was misinformed too. But he didn't have the luxury to change sides. He acted on the same info. Bush acts on it-hes a liar. Kerry acts on it and then turns away-hes a national hero.
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No offense but Bush is no liar, Kerry is. he has no morals. He lies constantly. He won't protect America like Bush can.
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | And when I'm President, America will stop being the only advanced nation in the world which fails to understand that health care is not a privilege for the wealthy, the connected, and the elected - it is a right for all Americans. Yeah, we're going to become SOCIALISTS everyone! Yeah!!!!! *sarcasim* |
What is wrong with you people!?
You're practically saying that people that have no money don't have a right to health care! Are you out of your mind!? You've implied that Capitalism is more fair than Communism, Rep_Man, but excuse me if I do not see the fairness of denying the less fortunate ones medical care!
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| Captain Dappet wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | And when I'm President, America will stop being the only advanced nation in the world which fails to understand that health care is not a privilege for the wealthy, the connected, and the elected - it is a right for all Americans. Yeah, we're going to become SOCIALISTS everyone! Yeah!!!!! *sarcasim* |
What is wrong with you people!?
You're practically saying that people that have no money don't have a right to health care! Are you out of your mind!? You've implied that Capitalism is more fair than Communism, Rep_Man, but excuse me if I do not see the fairness of denying the less fortunate ones medical care! |
I can agree on you Cappy.
Basically Republican Man don't care if an homeless man dies because he has no healthcare insurance or a family losses a son because they can't afford good healthcare. (No Offence)
This would be a good line for Republicans "Lets make the rich richer and lets make the poor poorer"
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No thats the Democrats
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Obviously, it isn't. Just look! Kerry is a Democrat, no? Republican_Man is a Republican. Rep_Man says that it's only the rich that have the right to health care, basically. And Kerry says in his speech that is a right for all Americans.
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/\ If a Liberal said it, I agree with it. 
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He didn't say that and you know it.
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| Quote: | | And I am determined now to restore that pride to all who look to America. And what did you just say, Mr. Kerry, at the beginning of the speech? "We are proud of what America is and what it can become. " Which is it? |
I'm pretty sure that the statement about us being proud of America was referring to us as Americans, and the statement about being determined to restore pride to all who look to America was referring to outsiders, and foreign countries.... Your point is moot, because those two statements had different subjects.
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| kmma wrote: | | No thats the Democrats |
Have you read what Kerry said he said he was going to put out a healthcare plan that can "Save many middle class Americans thousands of dollars" so most Americans can afford a good healthcare.
People who are going pay check to pay check working almost everyday can get a good healthcare plan in another way of saying it.
(Looks like Republicans just want too ignore Regular people like me and others who work pay check to check)
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He didn't say that and you know it. |
No? Read his comment. It is obvious that he disagrees with Kerry, that all people should recieve health care, not just the wealthy ones.
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[quote] | Quote: | | My fellow Americans, this is the most important election of our lifetime. The stakes are high. We are a nation at war � a global War on Terror against an enemy unlike any we have ever known before. And here at home, wages are falling, health care costs are rising, and our great middle class is shrinking. People are working weekends; they're working two jobs, three jobs, and they're still not getting ahead. Can't disagree with the Most Important Election comment. And no, the economy is not as bad as Kerry is portraying it. |
Then what say you to the latest reports on our economy that say that the United States is in a recession? Last time I checked, that was a bad thing...
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| Quote: | | And what are you going to do, Kerry? Stop the Unions from gaining so much power? And I have YET TO SEE Bush say that we can't do better. |
What is your candidate doing about it, if you believe that he feels we can do better? He does happen to be the one in office. He doesn't have to wait a day to start making the world better... what is he doing?
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| Captain Dappet wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | And when I'm President, America will stop being the only advanced nation in the world which fails to understand that health care is not a privilege for the wealthy, the connected, and the elected - it is a right for all Americans. Yeah, we're going to become SOCIALISTS everyone! Yeah!!!!! *sarcasim* |
What is wrong with you people!?
You're practically saying that people that have no money don't have a right to health care! Are you out of your mind!? You've implied that Capitalism is more fair than Communism, Rep_Man, but excuse me if I do not see the fairness of denying the less fortunate ones medical care! |
You are putting words in my mouth that JUST AREN'T THERE. I do NOT believe that poor people don't have the right to health care--I NEVER said that. I just don't believe that the government should have to provide health care for people--I believe in SMALLER GOVERNMENT. And we DO have Medicare and Medicaid, which I do support, only with restrictions. And Communism is NOT fair. If someone doesn't work hard, they get the SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS THOSE THAT DO. Plus, Communism does NOT work.
| borgslayer wrote: | | Captain Dappet wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | And when I'm President, America will stop being the only advanced nation in the world which fails to understand that health care is not a privilege for the wealthy, the connected, and the elected - it is a right for all Americans. Yeah, we're going to become SOCIALISTS everyone! Yeah!!!!! *sarcasim* |
What is wrong with you people!?
You're practically saying that people that have no money don't have a right to health care! Are you out of your mind!? You've implied that Capitalism is more fair than Communism, Rep_Man, but excuse me if I do not see the fairness of denying the less fortunate ones medical care! |
I can agree on you Cappy.
Basically Republican Man don't care if an homeless man dies because he has no healthcare insurance or a family losses a son because they can't afford good healthcare. (No Offence)
This would be a good line for Republicans "Lets make the rich richer and lets make the poor poorer" |
I do NOT not care if a homeless man dies, damn it! I NEVER said that. Plus, we DO have Medicare and Medicaid, which I support, only with restrictions because so many people abuse the system.
And that is just crap about that "Lets make the rich richer" comment. In America, we are CAPITALIST, meaning that you have to WORK HARD to get the money. The poor can find ways to work. It's a lousy excuse for not finding a job.
| kmma wrote: | | No thats the Democrats |
It's not Democrats.
| Captain Dappet wrote: | | Obviously, it isn't. Just look! Kerry is a Democrat, no? Republican_Man is a Republican. Rep_Man says that it's only the rich that have the right to health care, basically. And Kerry says in his speech that is a right for all Americans. |
Kerry's just saying that. He is. Perhaps he isn't, but he probably is. And I do NOT believe that ANY SINGLE PERSON DESERVES HEALTHCARE MORE THAN ANOTHER. The government just shouldn't be big and be too involved. Plus, my families not rich, nor are my friends, and yet they deserve healthcare, as do the poor, just the government shouldn't provide it too much for them. The gov't should give a certain amount of time of medical service to people depending on their situation, and once that's past...
| Founder wrote: | | Quote: | | Obviously, it isn't. Just look! Kerry is a Democrat, no? Republican_Man is a Republican. Rep_Man says that it's only the rich that have the right to health care, basically. And Kerry says in his speech that is a right for all Americans. |
He didn't say that and you know it. |
Exactly.
| Angeldust wrote: | | Quote: | | And I am determined now to restore that pride to all who look to America. And what did you just say, Mr. Kerry, at the beginning of the speech? "We are proud of what America is and what it can become. " Which is it? |
I'm pretty sure that the statement about us being proud of America was referring to us as Americans, and the statement about being determined to restore pride to all who look to America was referring to outsiders, and foreign countries.... Your point is moot, because those two statements had different subjects. |
Ah, well still.
| borgslayer wrote: | | kmma wrote: | | No thats the Democrats |
Have you read what Kerry said he said he was going to put out a healthcare plan that can "Save many middle class Americans thousands of dollars" so most Americans can afford a good healthcare.
People who are going pay check to pay check working almost everyday can get a good healthcare plan in another way of saying it.
(Looks like Republicans just want too ignore Regular people like me and others who work pay check to check) |
And how much will the deficit rise in that case?
And we do NOT want to ignore regular people like you! That is propaganda! And tell that to all the middle class, etc people who ARE Republicans, like myself, my parents, my friends, my friends' parents, etc. They do NOT belive that. And we do NOT choose to ignore people like us and our friends. I've already made that clear in above responses.
| Captain Dappet wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | Quote: | | Obviously, it isn't. Just look! Kerry is a Democrat, no? Republican_Man is a Republican. Rep_Man says that it's only the rich that have the right to health care, basically. And Kerry says in his speech that is a right for all Americans. |
He didn't say that and you know it. |
No? Read his comment. It is obvious that he disagrees with Kerry, that all people should recieve health care, not just the wealthy ones. |
I disagree with Kerry when he says that the government should provide healthcare for all.
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Then what say you to the latest reports on our economy that say that the United States is in a recession? Last time I checked, that was a bad thing... |
We are RECOVERING from the recession.
And who GAVE Bush the recession? CLINTON. Bush INHERITED the recession from Clinton. And also, look at the recent numbers. Job rates are great--below 5.7%...I'll try to dig up more facts for you.
| Angeldust wrote: | | Quote: | | And what are you going to do, Kerry? Stop the Unions from gaining so much power? And I have YET TO SEE Bush say that we can't do better. |
What is your candidate doing about it, if you believe that he feels we can do better? He does happen to be the one in office. He doesn't have to wait a day to start making the world better... what is he doing? |
He's been cutting taxes and doing what he can to help out the economy.
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