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Sharon: U.S. Wants Israel to Have Nukes
Thursday, July 29, 2004
JERUSALEM � The United States backs Israel's right to weapons of deterrence, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (search) said Thursday, an oblique reference to Israel's secret store of nuclear weapons.
Sharon told a political party gathering in Tel Aviv that the United States recognizes that "Israel faces an existential threat, and it must be able to defend itself by itself by preserving its deterrent capability."
Sharon noted that Iran is under U.S. pressure to stop its nuclear weapons program (search), and Libya took steps to halt its nuclear arms development, but "we have received here a clear American position that says in other words that Israel must not be touched when it comes to its deterrent capability."
Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, maintaining a policy of ambiguity. However, based on pictures and information given to the London Sunday Times in 1987 by nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, experts have determined that Israel has dozens, perhaps hundreds, of nuclear bombs.
Sharon said the United States backs "Israel's right to defend itself by itself against threats at any place and to preserve Israel's deterrent power against all threats."
Critics of Israeli and U.S. policy have questioned why the United States has pressed Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea to stop developing nuclear weapons, when Israel faces no similar pressure.
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Tsss, if what he says is true that is a bad choice by the Bush administration. They don't NEED any nukes because WE are allies with them and everyone knows who the US would side with if Israel is ever attacked like that.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:49 pm |
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This is odd, but I don't know what to make of it yet.
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Angeldust
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:52 pm |
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Not that I don't think that Israel has a right to defend itself... but seriously, all we need is another nervous president half way across the world with his finger on the button...
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:46 pm |
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I think they should have the right to defend themselves what with all the trouble they have wit the Palestinians. Not to say they should go on a nuclear rampage. I just think that if thats what they want I guess thats ok. Since they are allies its ok. Now North Korea is another story.... 
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:52 pm |
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North Korea.... that is its own animal, for sure. 
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:53 pm |
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I can understand if the Palastinians had WMD, that Israel would want some. But, right now I don't see a need for them to have any. Think of all the things that could go wrong...
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:54 pm |
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Definitely a terrifying thought...
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I can understand if the Palastinians had WMD, that Israel would want some. But, right now I don't see a need for them to have any. Think of all the things that could go wrong... |
I have to agree with that. If both of those nations get nukes. We'll have a nuclear war on our hands or at least the middle east will.
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:02 pm |
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Add that thought with the fact that Pakistan and India are in the same situation, and I'm moving to Mars... 
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:03 pm |
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India and Pakistan are not on the verge of nuclear war. We're ok with that for now.
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:05 pm |
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"For Now" is the key phrase there. Can you imagine what would happen if Israel and Palestine got into it? I wouldn't be surprised if India and Pakistan followed suit... tempers run pretty high in that area of the world. I know. I've lived there.
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:12 pm |
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My g/f is from India. I would know if they got into a nuclear war. As would the whole world. Right now its more likely for Palestine and Israel to fight it out.
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| Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:14 pm |
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Lets just hope that nukes don't get involved, then...shall we?
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:06 am |
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If Israel and Palastine got nuclear weapons then I think there would be another samll cold war. Neither side would use them probably as they would have something happen to them from the rest of the world. Also Israels threats are more from terrorists than a country at the moment, so they don't really need them.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:11 pm |
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| Quote: | | If Israel and Palastine got nuclear weapons then I think there would be another samll cold war. Neither side would use them probably as they would have something happen to them from the rest of the world. Also Israels threats are more from terrorists than a country at the moment, so they don't really need them. |
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Puck
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:14 pm |
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I don't think they are worthy of creating nuclear bombs over though.  Especially when they know the US will be there to protect them.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:16 pm |
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| Quote: | | I don't think they are worthy of creating nuclear bombs over though. Especially when they know the US will be there to protect them. |
I don't think the issue is that the U.S. will help them out, I think it is an issue of reaction time. If they have their own nukes, they don't have to wait for us to send ours if something happens....
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:17 pm |
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If ANYONE starts sending out nukes....I don't think reaction time will be the real problem......
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:20 pm |
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| Quote: | | If ANYONE starts sending out nukes....I don't think reaction time will be the real problem...... |
I would have to agree with you on that...
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:56 pm |
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And why can't everyone simply destroy all the nuclear weapons currently on the planet? Not being a hippy or anything, but it seems like it'd solve alot of problems.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:58 pm |
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Cause no one wants to be the first guy caught without nukes... no one is willing to start...
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