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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 5:46 pm    Lifestyle choices

These last two years have been kind of tough on me. I won't go into boring detail but I will say that I haven't been looking after my health like I should.

I don't drink alcohol (much) or smoke and I'm not a health fanatic. But I think it's time to make some changes. I'd appreciate any advice anyone could give.

1.) How much should I weigh? I'm not obese but I think I am slightly overweight, maybe. I'm 6 ft and I currently weigh around 225 pounds. There's no visible fat on my body, I'm pretty well-built. But I think I should trim down a little. As someone who is 6ft, how much do you all think I should weigh?

2.) Water. How much of it would you recommend a day? Should I drink bottled or tap. Tap water in my hometown is the best in the country but is bottled water better?

3.) Fruit. What are the best fruits? I like most fruits (apart from banana's and pears). What do you think are the best ones to eat? Which ones are best for the skin? Are there any that are good for one's eyes?

4.) Meat. Is it good for you? I usually eat chicken, steak or beef. Are they good for you? If so, how many times a week should I eat them?

5.) Is a brisk walk good for you? How far should I walk and how often?

I would appreciate any advice. I'm not a health freak but I don't feel healthy. My lousy past couple of years has led me to eat quite a bit of junk food at times (too much fast food) and I've neglected exercise. I'll be 30 years of age soon. I want to turn things around a little.

I know this may sound like a stupid topic. I had thought about seeing my doctor about this but I'd rather my appointment went to someone with a genuine health problem. I'll be interested in reading your answers.

Thank you in advance.

Stephen


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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 7:00 pm    Re: Lifestyle choices

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1.) How much should I weigh? I'm not obese but I think I am slightly overweight, maybe. I'm 6 ft and I currently weigh around 225 pounds. There's no visible fat on my body, I'm pretty well-built. But I think I should trim down a little. As someone who is 6ft, how much do you all think I should weigh?
Donno how much you Should weigh, I think that depends on how much muscles you have. Muscles weigh more then fat. So if you start exercising and you don't lose wight, don't worry

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2.) Water. How much of it would you recommend a day? Should I drink bottled or tap. Tap water in my hometown is the best in the country but is bottled water better?
Tap! Water on bottle is only water. tap water containes minerals and other good stuff. And if it doesn't tast bad, go for it

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3.) Fruit. What are the best fruits? I like most fruits (apart from banana's and pears). What do you think are the best ones to eat? Which ones are best for the skin? Are there any that are good for one's eyes?
I actually have no idea on that one. I know you shouldn't eat TOO much bananas and pears thou But fruit are in general good, so eat as much as you can

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4.) Meat. Is it good for you? I usually eat chicken, steak or beef. Are they good for you? If so, how many times a week should I eat them?
Ehm... I think 1/4 of your plate should contain protain... as long as you don't eat more, then no problem... i think And beans contains protain too, so... that's good. yeah. ehm... oo and if you exercise then you should eat more protain so that your muscles can built up. And you'll be "full" longer if you eat more protains and less carbohydrate (suger and that stuff)


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5.) Is a brisk walk good for you? How far should I walk and how often?
Walking is great! You do that. I think once a day like a half an hour. And then like a few times a week, you could do some wight-lifting or something...

I must say I'm no expert thou, but i think this is what "healthy living" is. Hope it will work out fine for you

Ooo and take care of your feet too


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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 7:20 pm    

Tap and bottled are really the same. It's only differant if it is mineral, spring, or the like. HEck most of what claims to be "Spring" watter is tap water!!

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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 7:48 pm    

I drink lots of water now. I lose lots of weight. Its so much better than soda. Also, I stopped eating as much. I eat one meal a day. A few snacks every so often. But when I feel hungry, I drink water. Its beautiful, water has nothing bad! At all! Its beautiful.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 7:56 pm    

^Lol You can get sterile by drinking too much water.
And eating one meal a day isn't really good for you either . If you spread it out a bit, then your body won't store the food. If you eat only one meal then your body will think that It won't get any more and then It will store the energy as fat for future starving... Yup. It's true. And if you eat many small meal, then the body will go "Oh It's ok, I can use this energy, cuz I know I'll get more sone" Truetrue.



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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 8:00 pm    

Bah, I can just be even more lazy and sterile. That will be fun.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 8:00 pm    

superwoman wrote:
^Lol You can get sterile by drinking too much water.
And eating one meal a day isn't really good for you either . If you spread it out a bit, then your body won't store the food. If you eat only one meal then your body will think that It won't get any more and then It will store the energy as fat for future starving... Yup. It's true. And if you eat many small meal, then the body will go "Oh It's ok, I can use this energy, cuz I know I'll get more sone" Truetrue.


Eating small meals is good, but I've been doing the 1 meal a day, and it works quite well for me.

And Dentist, to you I say: You want to be healthy? SUPPLEMENT! ESPECIALLY if you do exercise. Supplementation is the best choice you can possibly make, as it's in fact impossible to get all the vitamins, minerals, and trace minerals from the four food groups.


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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 8:15 pm    

^Na It's Not impssible at all. I manage You just have to eat lots of vegetable.
And you can eat as much vagetables and fruit as you want to... almost. cuz they dont contain that much Bad fat and other bad stuff. And btw, there are good fats! vegetable-fat and fish-fat especially "fat-fish-fat" like salmon are great fats.
So: eat fish and more vegetables and exercise.


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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 8:16 pm    

To me, I dont like the idea. Supplements arent natural. And yes, exercise is good. I am exercising my hands right now.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 9:09 pm    

superwoman wrote:
^Na It's Not impssible at all. I manage You just have to eat lots of vegetable.
And you can eat as much vagetables and fruit as you want to... almost. cuz they dont contain that much Bad fat and other bad stuff. And btw, there are good fats! vegetable-fat and fish-fat especially "fat-fish-fat" like salmon are great fats.
So: eat fish and more vegetables and exercise.


*ahem* Well...

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Researchers differ on exactly how many essential minerals there are (the general consensus is around 60), but they all agree that a diet which lacks enough of these minerals can eventually lead to disease and death.

Unfortunately, minerals don't occur in a uniform blanket around the crust of the Earth, but rather, are found in veins and patches. Since different minerals appear in different concentrations from place to place, there have always been a wide variety of deficiency-related diseases.

To eliminate random mineral-deficiency diseases in livestock, the agricultural industry adds minerals and trace minerals to animal feed so that every mouthful delivers optimal nutrition. By contrast, humans have historically been told that "you can get everything you need from your four food groups." Today, people are beginning to realize that this just isn't true.

For over 100 years, American farmers have used the simple fertilizer NPK to achieve the maximum yield per acre possible. As a result, our farm and range soils are exhausted of organic material and depleted of essential minerals. It is more important now than ever before to supplement our diets with minerals.

Minerals are the basic building blocks of all things, both living and non-living. Their functions in our bodies are critical and are essential for good health. The body utilizes over 60 minerals for maximum function. Because our plants and soils are so nutrient depleted, even if we eat the healthiest foods, we are not getting all the minerals we need. Evidence of mineral malnutrition are various minor and serious health conditions such as energy loss, premature aging, diminished senses, and degenerative diseases like osteoporosis, heart disease, and cancer.

In many cases, these could be prevented with proper mineral supplementation. The more you learn about the benefits of minerals, the more control you will have over your own health!

Every living cell depends on minerals for proper structure and function. Minerals are needed for the formation of blood and bones, the proper composition of body fluids, healthy nerve function, proper operation of the cardiovascular system, among others. Like vitamins, minerals function as co-enzymes, enabling the body to perform its functions including energy production, growth and healing. Because all enzyme activities involve minerals, they are essential for the proper utilization of vitamins and other nutrients. Nutritionally, minerals are grouped into two categories: bulk or essential minerals, also called macro-minerals, and trace minerals or micro-minerals. Macro-minerals such as calcium and magnesium are needed by the body in larger amounts. Although only minute quantities of trace minerals are needed, they are nevertheless important for good health. Micro-minerals include boron, chromium, iron, zinc, and many others.

Three basic classifications of minerals exist. They are "metallic minerals," "chelated minerals," and "colloidal minerals."


- www.americanlongevity.com Also, you can check out Dr. Joel Wallach, at his website: www.wallachonline.com --a firm supporter of supplementation, and www.imaginegoodhealth.com --Dr. Daniel Hardt.


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 12:04 am    Re: Lifestyle choices

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1.) How much should I weigh? I'm not obese but I think I am slightly overweight, maybe. I'm 6 ft and I currently weigh around 225 pounds. There's no visible fat on my body, I'm pretty well-built. But I think I should trim down a little. As someone who is 6ft, how much do you all think I should weigh?


I am 6ft1, and weigh around 70kg (145-150 american lbs?). It's more about body the induvidual body chemestry rather than just comparing height to weight.

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2.) Water. How much of it would you recommend a day? Should I drink bottled or tap. Tap water in my hometown is the best in the country but is bottled water better?


I drink maybe, 2 or 3 liters of water a day, which is quite a lot. And when weekends come, it's about 1 liter of water and 5 liters of beer!

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3.) Fruit. What are the best fruits? I like most fruits (apart from banana's and pears). What do you think are the best ones to eat? Which ones are best for the skin? Are there any that are good for one's eyes?


Fruits are good. I should eat more fruits.

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4.) Meat. Is it good for you? I usually eat chicken, steak or beef. Are they good for you? If so, how many times a week should I eat them?


Everyday. The body needs protein. I really like steak. Chicken, beef, prok etc are all good for you with minus the fat.

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5.) Is a brisk walk good for you? How far should I walk and how often?


You don't need a brisk walk, just a ...walk will do fine. My walking for each day probally tallys up to over and hour.

I have been also been considering joining a fitness club and and working out maybe twice a week. I don't have much upper body muscle.


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 12:20 am    Re: Lifestyle choices

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
4.) Meat. Is it good for you? I usually eat chicken, steak or beef. Are they good for you? If so, how many times a week should I eat them?


I think eating red meat, Steak and the like, 3-4 times a week is the best for you.

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5.) Is a brisk walk good for you? How far should I walk and how often?


Walking is good!!! You should try to walk for at least 1/2 an hour every day. But if you want something other than walking, you should try Pilates, it's fun, easy, and a high calorie burning work out.



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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 7:48 am    

You should have a mixture of things. Drink quite a lot of water, it generally doesn't matter what type of water it is. Eat a balanced diet, probably with 3 meals a day and a few snacks maybe. Advice will vary, but try different things and see what works best for you. Walkings good, but if you can do a sport and do some running. As for how much to do, do whatever is comportable. Well, do some and try and keep going when it gets tough for a bit as this will increase your fitness and you will be able to do more each day. Try and eat a lot of fruit and veg if you can rather than suplements as its a more natural way of getting the stuff you need.

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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 9:03 am    Re: Lifestyle choices

Sevenofninenz wrote:
I think eating red meat, Steak and the like, 3-4 times a week is the best for you.
Red meat contains too much "bad" fat. Eat more "light" meat like chicken and fish... i think

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Researchers differ on exactly how many essential minerals there are (the general consensus is around 60), but they all agree that a diet which lacks enough of these minerals can eventually lead to disease and death.

Unfortunately, minerals don't occur in a uniform blanket around the crust of the Earth, but rather, are found in veins and patches. Since different minerals appear in different concentrations from place to place, there have always been a wide variety of deficiency-related diseases.

To eliminate random mineral-deficiency diseases in livestock, the agricultural industry adds minerals and trace minerals to animal feed so that every mouthful delivers optimal nutrition. By contrast, humans have historically been told that "you can get everything you need from your four food groups." Today, people are beginning to realize that this just isn't true.

For over 100 years, American farmers have used the simple fertilizer NPK to achieve the maximum yield per acre possible. As a result, our farm and range soils are exhausted of organic material and depleted of essential minerals. It is more important now than ever before to supplement our diets with minerals.

Minerals are the basic building blocks of all things, both living and non-living. Their functions in our bodies are critical and are essential for good health. The body utilizes over 60 minerals for maximum function. Because our plants and soils are so nutrient depleted, even if we eat the healthiest foods, we are not getting all the minerals we need. Evidence of mineral malnutrition are various minor and serious health conditions such as energy loss, premature aging, diminished senses, and degenerative diseases like osteoporosis, heart disease, and cancer.

In many cases, these could be prevented with proper mineral supplementation. The more you learn about the benefits of minerals, the more control you will have over your own health!

Every living cell depends on minerals for proper structure and function. Minerals are needed for the formation of blood and bones, the proper composition of body fluids, healthy nerve function, proper operation of the cardiovascular system, among others. Like vitamins, minerals function as co-enzymes, enabling the body to perform its functions including energy production, growth and healing. Because all enzyme activities involve minerals, they are essential for the proper utilization of vitamins and other nutrients. Nutritionally, minerals are grouped into two categories: bulk or essential minerals, also called macro-minerals, and trace minerals or micro-minerals. Macro-minerals such as calcium and magnesium are needed by the body in larger amounts. Although only minute quantities of trace minerals are needed, they are nevertheless important for good health. Micro-minerals include boron, chromium, iron, zinc, and many others.

Three basic classifications of minerals exist. They are "metallic minerals," "chelated minerals," and "colloidal minerals."


- www.americanlongevity.com Also, you can check out Dr. Joel Wallach, at his website: www.wallachonline.com --a firm supporter of supplementation, and www.imaginegoodhealth.com --Dr. Daniel Hardt.


LoL! I can find an articel that says the complete difference But I wont. If you only eat like white bread, stake and potates EVery day, then ok. But if you eat a variety of food, and lots of fruit and vegetables then don't. And also, it may excist lots of minerals and vitamines that we don't know of, that our body still get from the food we eat, so if you only eat supplements and don't care about eating a variety of food, then you may not get the Unknown minerals and vitamines...

And I must admit. Right now I Do eat supplements or whatever it's called too, cuz of the iron I think I'll need. I'm gonna donate blood on monday so I wanna have some extra reservs... I belive that also is good for you, to donate blood that is. I think that "exercise" your blood production. I allways fell more... (don't know the exact word) ...alert (in a good way) aftter I've donated blood. AND You get a really Cool bandage



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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 9:26 am    Re: Lifestyle choices

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
1) How much should I weigh?


You can try calculating your BMI (body mass index):

BMI = weight (in kilograms) / height� (in meters)

For you, that would be:
weight = 225 pounds = 102kg
height = 6 ft = 1.83m
BMI = 102kg / 1.83m� = 30.5kg/m�


Men are usually satisfied with a BMI of 23 to 25. If your BMI is between 17 to 22, your life expectancy is longer than average. If your BMI is between 23 and 25, you are not considered overweight by most people. But if your BMI is 26 or more, that's not good. Your body description is obese and your weight is at the 83th percentile according to your age (about 30) and height.

    If at 50th percentile, you are close to average weight.
    At 90th percentile, your weight is greater than 90% of others.
    At 20th percentile, then 80% of others weigh more than you.


To get a BMI of 23-25, you should weigh 80.4kg or 177 pounds, which means you need to loose 48 pounds.

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2) Water. How much of it would you recommend a day? Should I drink bottled or tap. Tap water in my hometown is the best in the country but is bottled water better?


On average, a person should drink about 1.5 to 2 liters (0.40 gal - .53 gal) of water a day. But remember, if you drink alcohol, it actually dehydrates (that's why you get headaches during a hang-over). So, if you drink alcohol, drink even more water!

Whether it's tap water or bottled, I wouldn't know. That would depend on the quality of the water. If both the tap water and the bottled water is of good quality, take both!

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3) Fruit. What are the best fruits? I like most fruits (apart from banana's and pears). What do you think are the best ones to eat? Which ones are best for the skin? Are there any that are good for one's eyes?


Fruit is always good, they don't really make the body grow but they do have lots of vitamines. Bananas are good when you're doing lots of sports. They give you lots of energy. Apples are good! An apple a day keeps the doctor away! Also, carrots have lots of vitamine A which is good for the eyes.

As for the skin, I'm not sure what fruit is the best. But try to keep your skin supple and use creme when it becomes dry. The skin is the largest organ of the body and since it's always in contact with other materials, it needs special attention...

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
4) Meat. Is it good for you? I usually eat chicken, steak or beef. Are they good for you? If so, how many times a week should I eat them?


Yes, meat is good for you. Meat has lots of proteins which make the body grow (muscels). If you want to try fitness or even bodybuilding, eat chiken, meat and tuna every day. Your muscels will explode!

If you don't want to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you can eat meat about 2 to 3 times a week. The others days, eat fish. But don't forget to always have a balanced meal. Meat/fish with vegetables and patatoes/pasta at a ratio of 1/3 each is perfect...

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
5) Is a brisk walk good for you? How far should I walk and how often?


A walk has never done anyone harm so yes, walks are good. How far and how often? That depends on your goals. D'you want to loose weight? If so, the more the better! Maybe you could do some biking as well...

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
I'm not a health freak but I don't feel healthy. My lousy past couple of years has led me to eat quite a bit of junk food at times (too much fast food) and I've neglected exercise.


If you want to do something about your health, QUIT THE FAST FOOD! You know it's no good for you. Too many calories, too fat, ...

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
I'll be 30 years of age soon. I want to turn things around a little.


It's never too late to start doing something about your health. The problem is mostly motivation. Try finding a buddy to do some excersies with, that always gives extra motivation. Maybe you should keep track of you weight over time and try to set a goal (loose 10 pounds each month or two). Take it easy, losing too much weight too fast might even be worse that being obese...

Starfleet Dentist wrote:
I know this may sound like a stupid topic. I had thought about seeing my doctor about this but I'd rather my appointment went to someone with a genuine health problem. I'll be interested in reading your answers.


A doctor is there to help people with health problems. If you consider yourself to have a health problem then you should go. If not a doctor, maybe a trainer/sports expert. Enter a gym, there will be specialized people there to guide you.

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Thank you in advance.

Stephen


Thank you for reminding me I should do something about my health as well. I'm 1m94cm (6"4') and weigh 83kg (183 pounds) but I'm not as fit as I used to be. When I was at the university, I had a buddy and we did some sports three times a week. I gained mass (muscels) and I felt real good. I was lean and fit. After university I stopped doing sports alltogether and now I don't feel fit anymore. I'm not lean either.

I should start something again. I will too!

Oliver

P.S.: Keep us posted of you progress!


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 9:39 am    

I was 210 pounds, I lost down to 174 lbs thank goodness. I am losing more I am on s strict diet except when someone pisses me off I head for the chocalote. I have blood pressure problems and taking two different types of blood pressure meds which is the reason I am losing weight , not because anyone told me. Charlie does not understand I want to lose weight, he scared I might leave him, yeah right. He's father of my kids, I am not stupid.

I am glad I am losing weight so thats my life style.


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 1:28 pm    

^Good that you are doing progress deb! Just dont lose too much too fast. Take it slow.

And Oliver... Carrots dont contain vitamin A it has somthing even better... think it's called kreton or something. And if your body need more vitamin A then the body transform this to vitamin a, that way you cant get too much vitamin A by eating carrots
well... that was all I wanted to say really... lol



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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 1:39 pm    

Thank you for your insight on this and I appologize for my mistake...

As Scotty would say: "I'm an engineer not a doctor!"


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 1:49 pm    

Thanks Supperwoman. I will take your advise.

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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 2:11 pm    Re: Lifestyle choices

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LoL! I can find an articel that says the complete difference But I wont. If you only eat like white bread, stake and potates EVery day, then ok. But if you eat a variety of food, and lots of fruit and vegetables then don't. And also, it may excist lots of minerals and vitamines that we don't know of, that our body still get from the food we eat, so if you only eat supplements and don't care about eating a variety of food, then you may not get the Unknown minerals and vitamines...

And I must admit. Right now I Do eat supplements or whatever it's called too, cuz of the iron I think I'll need. I'm gonna donate blood on monday so I wanna have some extra reservs... I belive that also is good for you, to donate blood that is. I think that "exercise" your blood production. I allways fell more... (don't know the exact word) ...alert (in a good way) aftter I've donated blood. AND You get a really Cool bandage


I never said that fruits and vegetables are not good--neither did the article. SIMPLY saying that you can't get the proper nutrition from them alone. It's been proven. Look at it this way: The U.S. has a VERY bad record with health. We're not even in the top TEN countries for health and longevity, and among the 32 industrialized ones in birth defects, we're dead LAST. People who live in, for example, Titticaca, and irrigate with mineral-rich glacial milk and do NOT have modern doctors, etc., live on average to be over 100, and rather healthily.

I suggest you check the numbers in health/longevity with the lifestyle that the mainstream doctors promote. They're not in their favor. You aware that it's illegal to 'Cure' people in most states? Seriously? You can't go around *curing* people in the U.S. Not allowed.


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 2:37 pm    

^Yeah I know you didn't say that vegetables and fruit are bad. Sorry if it seemed like I thought so.
And you don't think that maybe the Food in general has something to do with it? not only minerals and vitamines? Like the "city people" eat more fast food with much carbohydrates and bad fats? And the "city people" sit still more then the others, and that the city folks is more stressed...

And one think that I've heard that don't really has something to do with this but anyway... I allways hear people say that the population were healthier and stronger "back in the days", But then again, the ones who were weak didn't last to grew old and strong Natural selection you know...


B'Ellanna_Torrez wrote:
I suggest you check the numbers in health/longevity with the lifestyle that the mainstream doctors promote. They're not in their favor. You aware that it's illegal to 'Cure' people in most states? Seriously? You can't go around *curing* people in the U.S. Not allowed.
Don't understand you. why isn't it allowed?

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Thank you for your insight on this and I appologize for my mistake...

As Scotty would say: "I'm an engineer not a doctor!"
Apology exepted

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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 2:44 pm    

superwoman wrote:
^Yeah I know you didn't say that vegetables and fruit are bad. Sorry if it seemed like I thought so.
And you don't think that maybe the Food in general has something to do with it? not only minerals and vitamines? Like the "city people" eat more fast food with much carbohydrates and bad fats? And the "city people" sit still more then the others, and that the city folks is more stressed...

And one think that I've heard that don't really has something to do with this but anyway... I allways hear people say that the population were healthier and stronger "back in the days", But then again, the ones who were weak didn't last to grew old and strong Natural selection you know...


B'Ellanna_Torrez wrote:
I suggest you check the numbers in health/longevity with the lifestyle that the mainstream doctors promote. They're not in their favor. You aware that it's illegal to 'Cure' people in most states? Seriously? You can't go around *curing* people in the U.S. Not allowed.
Don't understand you. why isn't it allowed?


The food can have something to do with it, maybe. But let's look at doctor obituaries. You'd THINK that doctors would live a long time. The average traditional doctor lives to about somewhere in the range of 50 or so. Why is this? These people who supposedly help the rest of us live? Check 'em out, check 'em out... Athletes, as well. You'd think athletes would do better. Athletes die MUCH sooner than couch potatoes. You'd think they'd be doin' great...

Money, is the main thing, with the cures. You cannot claim to cure people. You can't come out with a *CURE* for some disease. This is true, no lie. Dr. Wallach calls it '100% better' when he says it, for fear of being caught. You CAN, though, cure animals. No one has a problem with that.

Funny, eh?


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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 2:48 pm    

But there is one true healer, but I will not name cause it will start an arguement. But I will go ahead and hate me anyway. Jesus Christ.

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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 2:50 pm    

I will get bashed for what I said above but my opinion.

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PostFri Jul 30, 2004 3:00 pm    

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