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Iraq:
We were right to go in.
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We were wrong to go in.
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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 1:33 pm    

But war is sometimes needed rather you believe it or not.

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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 1:37 pm    

Jeremy wrote:
((It's not really flip-flopping as I'm pretty sure it would need more than one change of mind to flip-flop. He can change his mind if he gets informed of different facts. It probably is a bit late, but if he looks back then he can change his mind. I think he would have thought the same at first if we went back from the information we had then, but now we have more.))


No, I'm sorry, but even though Janeway is a friend, he's FLIP-FLOPPED. He's changed his mind AFTER THE FACT. It's WAY to late for that.
Of course people can change their minds, but not in cases like this.



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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 1:48 pm    

Yes, sometimes war is needed, but people are going to be agaist it, even if it's just the total pacifist people. I personally don't agree with them, but was just stating that people will disagree.

I actually think it's very stupid if someone will not change their minds if they get new information. If the new information sways him the other way then he can change his mind and say he is against it. It would be wrong to pretend to agree. That's the whole point in the WN forum, to debate.


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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 1:50 pm    

Jeremy wrote:
Yes, sometimes war is needed, but people are going to be agaist it, even if it's just the total pacifist people. I personally don't agree with them, but was just stating that people will disagree.

I actually think it's very stupid if someone will not change their minds if they get new information. If the new information sways him the other way then he can change his mind and say he is against it. It would be wrong to pretend to agree. That's the whole point in the WN forum, to debate.


No, no no. Yes, if you get new information, in a lot of cases you should change your mind.
But after we haven't really found much WMDs, Janeway has said that we should not have gone to war, and that is not right. He could say that we had to go to war but we were mistaken in the intelligence. That's what he should say, not that we shouldn't have gone to war.

Oh, and I'm not trying to be pacifist or nothing.



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PostThu Jul 29, 2004 1:52 pm    

People can be against all they want. They don't run this country. Until they do, then they have their say. Bush did what was right. He does not go by polls, He made the decision cause he wanted to protect America and get rid of the evil. And help the Iraqi people be free of that evil man.
Sorry you don't see it the truth. Bush dont go by people opinions, if he did that OMG America will be in for a down fall. And terrorist will be free to attack.


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