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Puck
The Texan
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Cache of child *beep* found at seminary
Monday, July 12, 2004 Posted: 4:06 PM EDT (2006 GMT)
VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- A vast cache of child pornography and photos of young priests having sex has been discovered at a Roman Catholic seminary, officials said Monday, leading politicians and church leaders to demand a criminal probe and the resignation of the bishop in charge.
Bishop Kurt Krenn, who oversees the diocese, refused to step down, however, dismissing the images as a "childish prank."
Leaders of the Catholic diocese of St. Poelten where the seminary is located, about 50 miles west of Vienna, spent much of the day in an emergency meeting.
The seminary's director, the Rev. Ulrich Kuechl, resigned along with his deputy, Wolfgang Rothe, the diocese said after the meeting. It did not elaborate.
As many as 40,000 photos and an undisclosed number of films, including child pornography, were found a year ago on computers at the seminary, the respected news magazine Profil reported.
It published several images purportedly showing young priests and their instructors kissing and fondling each other, and said others showed them engaging in orgies and sex games. The child *beep* came mostly from Web sites based in Poland, the magazine said.
Hannes Jarolim, a spokesman for the opposition Socialist Party, urged the Interior Ministry on Monday to launch a criminal investigation. Public prosecutor Walter Nemec said police were examining the material, which he said showed seminarians "in perverse situations together with their superiors."
The Austrian Bishops Conference issued a statement pledging a full and swift internal investigation.
"Anything that has to do with the practice of homosexuality or pornography has no place at a seminary for priests," it said.
Krenn, a conservative churchman, told Austrian television he had seen photos of seminary leaders in sexual situations with students, but he described the images as part of an elaborate prank that "had nothing to do with homosexuality."
His nonchalance drew swift and scathing reaction across the overwhelmingly Catholic nation.
"Collecting child pornography cannot be dismissed as a prank," said Thomas Huber, a Green Party politician.
In the mid-1990s, Austria was stung by allegations that Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, who died last year, had molested students at an all-male Catholic boarding school two decades earlier. The affair had prompted Groer to step down.
A group of St. Poelten Diocese officials planned to ask the Vatican to remove Krenn as bishop, Austrian radio reported Monday. Martin Walchhofer, who supervises the alpine country's seminaries, said Krenn ultimately was responsible and "must answer before the church and before God for all of this."
Asked whether he intended to resign, Krenn said bluntly: "No."
The Vatican said it had no comment.
Krenn, 68, issued a statement calling the accusations groundless while conceding that he "may have made some wrong personnel decisions" at the seminary. Rothe, the former deputy seminary chief, was a legal adviser to the bishop.
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/12/seminary.*beep*.ap/index.html
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I certainly hope that THIS will get the Vatican's attention. For the past years the Catholic Church just tries to hide all this, perhaps now, this will force the issue. It needs to be dealt with, and the Church has been doin a pretty *beep* job up to this point. As sad as it may be, this may be what we need. Of course when the Vatican says "No comment." that doesn't inspire any hope that real action will be taken....
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Defiant
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| Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:29 am |
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OMG!!! The catholic church here in Portland, OR thought they were going to be smart. They declared bankrupcy!
So they thought it was all good. Then all the people wanting money for abuse said, "well, youve got that property over there...I want it!"
So then the Vatican stepped in, and said the priest guy had no right to declare bankrupcy. Funny as hell!
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Puck
The Texan
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| Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:41 pm |
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I am glad you are able to find this so funny.
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Founder
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:49 am |
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I myself am a Catholic and hate to see this happening. This must be stopped. It has had a rough history and seems to get worse. I agree that the Vatican needs to crack down about this subject. It can no longer be swept under the rug.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:20 pm |
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The Vatican has done a horrible job with this. The Pope would not even meet with any victims when he visited Canada a while back. Personally, I think that the Pope is not really aware of what is going on, because of his age, and I beleive his health is pretty miserable. I think some of the other people that are close to him are manipulating him to put their own agenda through. Either way, the Vatican is doin a terrible job.
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WeAz
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:40 pm |
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this is serious no longer can this issue be ignored
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It was Bush, not Clinton, who ignored the warning signs for 9/11.
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Seven of Nine
Sammie's Mammy
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:27 pm |
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I recently (last night) watched The Magdalene Sisters. Although a work of fiction, it was based on true facts. Although most of the Catholic church is respectable, and really believes, there is a small minority who use the church as a cover. It is time for the church to admit there has been a horrendous problem, and to apologise, and to prevent this from happening again.
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Defiant
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:16 pm |
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I think its funny because they tried to exploit the law, but then they went even more into trouble.
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Tyvek
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:20 pm |
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That is just very sick, anything with children is an abomnation they are innocent and do not need to go through the trama that children who are molested go through, and also men like that give the gay community a bad name, because everyone then seems to think that if your gay you like kids, but thats not true, Gay Dont mean Pedophile! Pedophiles just need to be shot and get it over with.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:26 pm |
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Your right, over 90% of the cases are with male children, these preists should be called gay molesters and not "pedofile".
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