Should alien beings/races from the future show up in Enterprise? |
Yes, it'd be interesting and would help draw fans of TOS, TNG, DSN and VOY |
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No, it'd be a cheap and desperate tactic by the writers |
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I'm undecided |
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:52 am |
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It was the year 2365
Q flung the enterprise thousands of light years away from where they was (over to years to the nearest starbase) where they were approced by a borg cube. The cube attacked the enterprise, cutting out parts from a number of decks and 18 crewmembers. The cube chased the enterprise until it had ran out of resourses. It wasn't until picard said to Q that he needed him.
So Q flung the enterprise back to there origional location before all this started.
A year later another borg cube headed for earth. 40 ships (not inculding enterprise) engaged the borg at waolf 359...They were all destroyed. Picard was assimilated and became Locutis. The enterprise managed to get them him back and through Locutis managed to find a way to 'put the borg to sleep', the ship powered down and this activated the self destruct...bye bye borggies.
Then about 2 years later they discovered a single borg which they named "hew" ( think) He bacame an individual again and then was reasssimilated into the collective.
1-2 years after that there borg were in complete chaos. Because of hew some of the borg becan to develope there idividualality and in a way became Rouge borgs. Datas brother "lore" took advantages of this so he took control of these borg and turned them on who ever he wanted to e.g. Enterprise-D. Picard and some of the enterprise crew encountered "hew" again. He was with a seperate borg faction which do not follow Lore. Eventually everything was sorted out, Lore was stopped and the enterprise was saved.
3-4 Years after that, the borg sent another cube to try and assimilate earth. The federation fleet engaged the cube in sector 001. The cube was about to prevale when the Enterprise-E took command of the fleet and managed to destroy the cube with Picards knowledge of a borg cube...He knew exactly where to hit them.
As there last resort the cube sent out a short ranged sphere to got back intime to try and stop "First Contact". The Enterprise-E followed them back in time and managed to destroy the sphere. The borg transported on to the enterprise and started to take the ship. Eventually they destroyed to borg Queen on the enterprise and took back the ship. Unfortunately Lily & Zefram Cocrane new about the "cybernetically inhanced life forms" But it was never confirmed that they existed.
Over 100 Years later a group of scientist discovered these life forms.They regenerated and assimilated the humans that were at the complex with them. They took the scout ship that was there and assimilated that, improving it's speed and greatly inhancing it's weapons. The enterprise NX-01 managed to stop them.
In aproximately 2355 The Hanson family set out to prove that the borg were more than just a myth. 2 years into there journey they were assimilated into the collective.
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Commander Ranahan Doctor
Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam
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Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:36 am |
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Well they were talking about having another borg episod becuase of Lt. Hawk from the Enterprise E plus Danniels brings In the time ship Realtivity(Voyager Eppisode were the keept bringing 7 back) to help archer through the WW2)
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:07 pm |
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hhmmm, interesting.
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hdn Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Location: Sweden
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Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:20 pm |
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I don't think you understood my point. Even though the borg encounter in "First Contact" was not the first one to be shown on TV or in a movie, it was the first one according to the timeline. What year came first? 2063 or 2365?
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:44 pm |
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hdn wrote: | I don't think you understood my point. Even though the borg encounter in "First Contact" was not the first one to be shown on TV or in a movie, it was the first one according to the timeline. What year came first? 2063 or 2365? |
no it wasn't. according too the timeline none from 2063 encountered the borg. except for that blakc girl who was the only one who ever saw one and Cockrane(sp?) no one even knew about them. Untill Archer found those borg drone, but they we're notreally borg and not connected too the hive mind so that doesn't really count.
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hdn Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Location: Sweden
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Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:04 pm |
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lionhead wrote: | no it wasn't. according too the timeline none from 2063 encountered the borg. except for that blakc girl who was the only one who ever saw one and Cockrane(sp?) no one even knew about them. |
"Except for that black girl"? She doesn't count, or what?
If you pay attention to what Archer says in "Regeneration", you'll note that he mentions a speech in which Zefram Cochrane talks about the Borg, only he's not using the term "Borg". If I remember correctly he's calls them half humoid, half machines and so on.
lionhead wrote: | Untill Archer found those borg drone, but they we're notreally borg and not connected too the hive mind so that doesn't really count. |
I think the people that was assimilated would disagree with you saying that they were "not really" Borg. They looked Borg-ish enough for me, and they even got the "resistance is futile"-part right.
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:57 pm |
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No, it'd be a cheap and desperate tactic by the writers
It would re-write all of histroy one more time.
lionhead wrote: | hdn wrote: | I don't think you understood my point. Even though the borg encounter in "First Contact" was not the first one to be shown on TV or in a movie, it was the first one according to the timeline. What year came first? 2063 or 2365? |
no it wasn't. according too the timeline none from 2063 encountered the borg. except for that blakc girl who was the only one who ever saw one and Cockrane(sp?) no one even knew about them. Untill Archer found those borg drone, but they we're notreally borg and not connected too the hive mind so that doesn't really count. |
This is just proof that enterpirse re-writes history, The Borg were not found back then. Picard found them (I do believe) but the writers made it so it happpened in ent. They have even started to over use the Borg.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:34 pm |
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Im undecided, I think it would be ok but if handled badly it could mess things up. They shouldn't have had the Borg and Ferengi yet. Those two species comes later. The ENT-D never heard of them, why weren't they in the records? The only reason I can think of is the Romulan wars. Didn't starfleet lose a lot of information during that time? Lets hope that war comes soon.
I understand the argument that because the Borg went back in time in First Contact, that things are different because parts of their ship was left in Earth's past. I dont mind them being in that ONE episode but I hope they dont become a reacurring enemy ya know?
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gul Lemek III. Commodore
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 1513 Location: Slovenia
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Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:59 am |
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Yeah, that would probably fall out a bit strange...
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:25 am |
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lionhead wrote: | Enterprise-D? Who was the captain?
Too my knowledge the Captain Jean-Luc Picard and his crew where introduced too the borg by Q, resulting the massacre at Wolf 39. Then a couple of years later the borg attacked the fedration again, in vain assimilating Picard. Then the 3rd time Picard found a way too destroy the cube before permanent damage was done, resulting the sphere going back in time. |
Errr.. u really dont know the captain of Enterprise-D??? i dont believe since that was Picard lolz
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Voyager.ROCKS Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 118
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Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:56 pm |
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Who wouldnt want aliens from the future in it lol that would be sooooo crazy
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Omet'Ikilan Jem'hadar First
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 2045 Location: Bridge of Jem'Hadar Ship
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Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:47 pm |
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Voyager.ROCKS wrote: | Who wouldnt want aliens from the future in it lol that would be sooooo crazy |
Yes that might make me watch the show a little more (as long as they get rid of the Borg)
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:56 am |
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Aliens from the future are needed. As long as they were first contacted in ARCHER'S time frame. No more Borg. They better not show Jem'Hadar or Kazon on that show!
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Omet'Ikilan Jem'hadar First
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 2045 Location: Bridge of Jem'Hadar Ship
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:59 am |
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For sure if they started doing that id try to make them take it off the air
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:06 am |
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Quote: | For sure if they started doing that id try to make them take it off the air |
I agree /\Geordi_LaForge/\. Although I don't think they would go that far. Then again I never thought I'd see the Borg their without time travel.
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hdn Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Location: Sweden
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Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:03 am |
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/\Geordi_LaForge/\ wrote: | Voyager.ROCKS wrote: | Who wouldnt want aliens from the future in it lol that would be sooooo crazy |
Yes that might make me watch the show a little more (as long as they get rid of the Borg) |
I think you are overreacting "a little". It was ONE episode with the Borg, and it was done nicely. You are making it sound like if the Borg was the major theme of the show.
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