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Is enterprise a good show?
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No
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Mark Mag Gloade
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PostThu Jan 01, 2004 6:44 pm    

Archer doesnt hate vulcans anymore after they busted his @$$ outta alot of trouble and if there is a romantic relaionship between him and t'pol it would end the series because he cant have romantic relationships as ships captain...mabye hoshi and trip....i need to wake up


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PostSat Jan 03, 2004 11:26 pm    

the show isn't that bad, i will admit you guys have some points but lets think. back then there was no real star fleet or prime directive okay get things strait this was before any of that existed' are we all clear now


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PostSun Jan 04, 2004 6:41 pm    

I think that the timeline does mean something. Why have a stardate, if they aren't gonna try to keep a good timeline? This just shows me how lazy the writers are... not doing their homework.
Also, I think they could've chosen a better actor for captain... or maybe, it's the writers, too. One of them needs to improve.
There's also, just not enough dialogue, as if they're trying to write a story with the least amount of words. I can memorize those lines on Enterprise with little problem.
I also, didn't like the change in the theme song.
Even with these things that I don't like... i still like watching the show.
But, if there was another Star Trek series on another channel, at the same time, I would watch the other series, instead of Enterprise. Maybe, even TOS.


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PostSat Jan 17, 2004 2:47 am    

Definately a good show

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PostFri Jan 23, 2004 4:38 pm    

I love the new star trek okay it does break a fewof the precious timelines but it does it with good reason and some descent storylines and it is increasingly getting better i just think people judged it to quickly because of wsome of the things it did wrong but it still an ace series

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PostTue Jun 15, 2004 9:33 pm    enterprise

for me, watching enterprise is like watching a segal movie. i cannot stand it. with segal movies, i can't even be in the same room, it's just so stupid. that's what i think of enterprise. it contradicts so much stuff, and i'm the kind of person that notices that kind of thing. i'm really picky, not just with star trek, but with everything. and i get really upset when something is that screwy. it's also kinda like the harry potter movies. they've left so much crap out that's needed in the future books, it really pisses me off. n e ways, that's my opinion, not that its worth n e thing.

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PostTue Jun 15, 2004 9:59 pm    

your opinion counts as much as the rest of ours its your opinion IMO Enterprise is a great show and I'm gratefull that we have it, the fact that it condradicts certain things... well that con only be expected i mean it would be a very boring show if it had to follow every detail the earlier shows set out for it... i mean because then we'd know all the answers to everything.

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PostWed Jun 16, 2004 4:01 am    

I havent found a episode of enterprise i havent liked yet , i think the saga is great.

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PostWed Jun 16, 2004 4:12 am    

Dreamer38 wrote:
the show isn't that bad, i will admit you guys have some points but lets think. back then there was no real star fleet or prime directive okay get things strait this was before any of that existed' are we all clear now


They did pretty good for being the only human ship out there and staying alive under the oath(later being the prime directive) as they say on enterprise "not getting involved in internal affairs of visiting worlds", so they did have to obey those rules even in the dawn-starfleet era.


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PostWed Jun 16, 2004 5:27 am    

of course enterprise is a good show, why do you think i come too these forums?

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PostWed Jun 16, 2004 2:37 pm    

Enterprise is a really good show, a bit more cheery that the others. At lčeast that's my opinion.

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PostWed Jun 16, 2004 2:37 pm    

I don't think the show is that bad if you want a bad spinoff than the dreadfull Startrek Cartoon now thats bad.

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PostSat Jul 10, 2004 6:21 am    

some of their episodes are cpoied from other star trek series' mostly voyager and the next generation.

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PostSat Jul 10, 2004 5:53 pm    

This is my message to all Ent haters. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DONT WATCH IT. DONT TRY TO GET IT CANCELLED AND RUIN OUR FUN


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PostSun Jul 11, 2004 6:41 am    

^ TRUE!

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PostSun Jul 11, 2004 5:04 pm    

Mark Mag Gloade wrote:
YOU CALL YOURSELVES TREKKIES !! TO HELL WITH THE TIMELINE TO HELL WITH THE TEMPORAL PRIME DIRECTIVE, THIS IS BEFORE KIRK AND KIRK WAS BEFORE SOME OF US, HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY IT IS THE EXACT SAME AS VOYAGER!!!!


there are alot of enterprise episodes that have been take from voyager and wrewritten for enterprise.

I do think that it is good but, it just isn't authentic to star trek. It's hard for people to pull off a prequel and i admire them for trying but it is just not what people would expect.
But i would say that it creates a new perspective with it being only 100 years from now.



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PostMon Jul 12, 2004 6:52 am    

Enterprise is a great show!


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PostMon Jul 12, 2004 12:57 pm    

Quote:
Why do you say enterprise is so bad?

Coz it is?


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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 3:44 am    

how can u not like enterprise its star trek isnt it lol i prefer voyager but i watched every episode of enterprise its good

its good cuz its liek st:TNG lol

but theres no reason not to like it .... is there?


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gul Lemek III.
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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 6:34 am    

I don't have anything against it.

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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 5:53 pm    

Chakotay1988 wrote:
there are alot of enterprise episodes that have been take from voyager and wrewritten for enterprise.



I agree, for example, Similitude I believe it was called. Sim, is created from some of Trip's neural tissue and he grows up and doesn't want to die. Archer has to make the decision for the better of his crew, and has Phlox do the operation, abruptly "killing" Sim and letting Trip survive.
Ring any bells yet? How about Voyager's Tuvix?
Don't get me wrong, I like Enterprise, I'm just pointing out the similarities.


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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 6:52 pm    

There is nothing wrong with Enterprise in my opinion. If you don't like Enterprise, just simply post in the others star trek series you do like, simple as that. If it offends then I will apologize.

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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 7:20 pm    

I see Enterprise to be rather good really. It brings us back to the roots which i like


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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 7:35 pm    

Its not that we hate the show. I like it but I hate how they are messing up the timeline. I hate how they are wasting the potential this show has.

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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 10:02 pm    

Enterprise had potential from the start, but it has borrowed too much from it's predecessors and therefore lacks a strong original concept.

Plus, call it personal paranoia, but I feel Enterprise has ruined a lot of existing concepts.

For example:

- Let's ruin the Romulans by giving them cloaking technology 100 years before Kirk and Spock were "surprised" to discover they could go invisible...

- Let's ruin the Borg by allowing research teams to do massive research and investigations on the wreckage of a crashed sphere (Which I honestly thought Enterprise blew straight to hell in ST:FC)

- Let's ruin the Ferengi by having them travel so far away from Ferenginar and raiding a "Low-tech" starship for a few trinkets... and introducing them 200 years before official "First Contact"

- Let's ruin the Klingons by giving them the "Forehead" ... so what happens with TOS then? Do they lose their forehead in the 2260's, then get it back 10 years later?

- And don't even get me started on the Akiraprise design...

... Hello Braga! Being proud of never watching the TOS is a slap in the face to those of us who appreciate good writing, not cheap sex and constant fights.

I am not saying Enterprise is necessarily bad, but a little more original concepts which do not borrow seriously from VOY, TNG, etc., like "The Congenitor" or "Fallen Hero" would help to get Enterprise back on the right track.



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