N. Korea Threatens to TEST NUKE

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

This is getting way out of hand. I don't know what we need to do, but they better start putting some heavy duty pressure on this screw-ball.

Jeff Miller · **Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:15 am**

If I remember right we have nukes right? why is it that if another country has them than they are evil? I mean we look evil to the Countries that doesn't have nukes. I'm not saying who is wrong and who isn't just remember there are countries that look at us the way way we look at countries like N. Korea.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Do you know anything about Kim Chong-il. He is a nutcase. He also reportedly gave nuke tech. to Libya. He is a HUGE threat.

[edited for spelling]

Jeff Miller · **Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:19 am**

And I'm sure people in other countries see us as "Nutcases" I'm just trying to point out other countries see us as we see them as threats.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

That is a fair case. But he would sell nukes to anyone with money. That is the huge problem.

borgslayer · **Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:52 am**

Kim Jong Ill is a nutcase

Only a nutcase would dare challenge a superpower.

Theresa · **Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:35 am**

Jeff, your not seeing the distinction between stable governments having WMD's, and unstable governments having them. England has them, we have them, etc... WMD's in the hands of someone who will sell them for money? BAD thing. Someone who's not quite right? BAD thing. Other countries may not like us, but it's clearly not the same thing.

Captain Dappet · **Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:49 pm**

Ksim3000 · **Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:37 pm**

Actually, for information, Kim Jong-Il is actually reported to believe that he has some form of Autism. If you read quite a few things he actually does in his free time, you will find it quite surprising and strange.

Also, as for him being in power, I assure you, he hasn't got the intelligence needed to run the country. Personally, he is just "The Figurehead" while it his really his Military that run the country itself.

LightningBoy · **Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:34 pm**

borgslayer · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:28 am**

I would say that the United States should just say Kim Jong-ILL is bluffing about his nukes and launch a full attack on North Korea with the help from the South Korean, Chinese, and Russian Forces.

Kim Jong-ILL shouldnt be allowed to stay in power, he is just evil like saddam.

Seven of Nine · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:53 am**

You really want the USA to get a bad reputation :p Diplomacy first, then if necessary attack

Ksim3000 · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:47 pm**

Jeremy · **Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:33 pm**

Yes, during the Korean war America was going to "take over" (not take over, but clear out all the rebels) the whole country. But China threatened to declare war on America if they went past the 38th (I think it was the 38th parallel) parallel and so America stopped. It's one of the most dangerous flashpoints on earth even now.

Ksim3000 · **Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:58 pm**

borgslayer · **Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:36 pm**

Ksim3000 · **Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:49 pm**

First of all, yes I do, it is in the history books.

Second of all, America would back down if China backed North Korea. I mean, admit this, China's Military is the largest in The World. They have already 2 million men active and another 379 million in reserve. North Korea has a 1.1 million man army itself. America has only 71 million in reserve. That number against 379 million? Okay, China would only back down for trade but in a battle, China could win, I assure you. I mean, their army is actually bigger than Russia and America's population. So why would China be scared of America? Also, China has Nuclear Weapons too.

Also, Putin gets on with both North Korea and China. He is........how should I say, neutral. However, he is slowly bringing Russia back into a Communist State and this I can prove. I mean, for one, Russia actually has The Soviet National Anthem as their main National Anthem now. If you don't believe me, search for Russian Anthems.

Third, even if China and Russia did not actively get involved, they would probably send Military Equipment to North Korea, I mean, with Iraq, America, China and Russia are a bit edgy, even if they don't show it. Also, take a look at this picture.

There, I mean, if that isn't close, tell me what is?

Captain Dappet · **Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:06 pm**

I don't like Putin. Not because he's not Communist

The fact that Russia is ruled by a former K.G.B Operative disturbs me.

borgslayer · **Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:30 pm**

If they did go to war...the United States would get these allies.

(World Fact Book Files) In Total = 131,034,452 Combat Troops

The United States - 73,597,731 (Combat Ready Troops)
The United Kingdom - 12,393,785 (Combat Ready Troops)
South Korea - 8,966,241 (Combat Ready Troops)
Philippines - 15,780,602 (Combat Ready Troops)
Poland - 8,034,577 (Combat Ready Troops)
Italy - 12,279,516 (Combat Ready Troops)

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Vs These Countries = 211,838,207 Combat Troops

North Korea - 3,694,855 (Combat Ready Troops)
China - 208,143,352 (Combat Ready Troops)

Despite the numbers of North Korea and China being more...

The United States and its allies has an advantage and its that they have Aircraft Carriers, and thousands of missiles and bombs that can take out most of China and North Korea's Troops.

(Basically they cut those numbers down by one-hundred thousand before they do any land attack using ground forces.)

America still wins...

Ksim3000 · **Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:44 am**

Actually, first of all, South Korea, even though they have many troops, don't have the morale to fight The North. Morale counts too. Poland and Italy would not involve itself in Korea, we are cutting our Military down, to the point where we relie on American protection. Basically, only South Korea, The Philippines and America would really be fighting. And trust me, Aircraft and Missiles won't save you against a horde of men. North Korea has moutains then can use as an advantage too.

I've studied another Korean War, I've seen the numbers, I know what could jolly well happen.

Jeremy · **Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:38 am**

I doubt it would come down to this, as no president would risk that many lifes to take out a threat. The only way it could happen is if North Korea declared war on us, and that probably won't happen, at least now. Britain would support America though if it did come down to that. Although we don't have that many people we do have powerful weapons that would be able to take out lots of strategic targets.

Ksim3000 · **Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:17 pm**

That is true but still, both China and America have a 50/50 at winning, to my calculations. But the only problem is, America would have to travel The Pacific Ocean to reach Korea to send in reinforcments. China and North Korea are right next door. If they acted fast enough, they could secure South Korea and hold off The United Nations. It's a scenario mind you.

Also, Borgslayer, I wish to apologize for my behaviour. If I sounded rude, sorry, I was kinda tired lol.

Jeremy · **Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:06 pm**

Yeah, that's a good point. I think America would win if they get the Star Wars satalite system up though, as they could take out nukes if the warheads were on ICBM's. But then they could be delievered by some boat or rocket that doesn't enter the atmosphere, so... But I don't think they'd have the range to launch that far. Ah well, getting way to into this!